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psybearia
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Posted : Sep 23, 2008 02:16:03
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Why have artists been releasing the same tracks on various compilations as well as their own albums?
I see no harm in them making more money(if at all), just curious to know ...
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Zman
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Posted : Sep 23, 2008 04:57
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Im assuming:
1. Lack of ideas
2. Too much ganza, hence too lazy
3. Label wants to pay less since the track has been released already
4.. The track is really off the hook and is worth releasing more than once
The fourth option is rare  |
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kriz
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Posted : Sep 23, 2008 12:40
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frambonas
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Posted : Sep 23, 2008 13:58
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We release one track from the album a few month before the album comes.
As a preview, but also to make the people warm.
If you think we will get more money then you are wrong.
This is psytrance we are talking about, so I don't think many (average) artist make money with selling cd's |
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Yidam
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Posted : Sep 23, 2008 16:35
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Ideally most compilations should be re-releases from artist albums (from the same label perhaps)
you need re-releases to keep the industry going... especially an oversaturated one. it guarantees that the good tracks are better distributed... its the best compliment to an artist if their track is re-released.
goto discogs and see how many times Hallucinogen's LSD was re-released. |
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Yidam
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Posted : Sep 23, 2008 17:09
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Ideally most compilations should be re-releases or pre-releases from artist albums
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hallucinator
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Posted : Sep 23, 2008 21:16
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the idea of releasing tracks in 2 or 3 compilacions ( albums ) ... its better in one case..
yellow sunshine makes more this kind of compilacions..
taking tracks from difrenent artists ( from their albums ) selling in one pack.. for those who want to listen many artists .. in 2 cds mostly...
i dont think that its bad... why not
even that i dont like yellow sunshine label...
but some tracks are just for making plus in compilacions .. to complete the number of tracks ( 8,9,10 )
but respect for artists that they deserve to be in every compilacion
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psybearia
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Posted : Sep 23, 2008 23:07
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point noted
since i cant afford to buy cd's, i download
and im not ashamed of it ...
especially in the case of yellow sunshine explosion, i already have 7 out of 10 tracks
so if someone is paying 10-15 $ for a cd it would't be fair on their part to pay for something they already have ... its a huge price for 3 tracks
thats what i feel ... would like your two cents on it
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a3k
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Posted : Sep 23, 2008 23:22
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^^ now you can´t afford, but when the time comes you can afford will you buy cd´s?
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Yidam
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Posted : Sep 23, 2008 23:22
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Of course, if you already own the artist albums these compilations are pretty much useless.
Well, it really stems from how you would look at compilations. This is coming from a sampler perspective... so as someone who doesn't collect the kind of tracks YSE releases it makes sense to buy those CDs if you only want the good tracks.
You know what the irony of it all is ? All these smaller labels struggle to scout for talent and release the best and latest, while YSE sits back listens to the lot, picks the best of them, licenses, compiles, releases and then goes laughing to the bank.
Labels have to realise... the ones who want the very latest in releases are the DJs and the diehards... not the market... that demand is always a few months old. music takes time to marinate in this scene.
It doesn't seem fair but this is reality. Soon as labels face up to how the demand works in cases like these they're going to get market savvy.
That's why original artist albums are always the conrnerstone of any good label. Release even one good album and you can go from unknown to renound. Doing the same thing through original compilations takes many times longer.
Also, have noted that people tend to physically purchase an album rather than a compilation... can't hit the bullseye on that but I think it has something to do with the fact that people find it easier to be faithful to an artist before they're faithful to a label.
Anyway.... hopefully all this crap will be wiped out when digital downloads go full scale and people start buying one track at a time. |
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psybearia
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Posted : Sep 24, 2008 01:22
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On 2008-09-23 23:22, a3k wrote:
^^ now you can´t afford, but when the time comes you can afford will you buy cd´s?
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maybe
every album is on the internet on the day of the release if not a few days earlier
once i can afford them i will, every now and then
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Shanti Alien
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Posted : Sep 24, 2008 02:00
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I have several re released tracks... on YSE and Geomagnetic... It's something the labels do by themselves...
I would prefer to release new music but then it would cost them more money so they just release already released music which they seem tio like the best.
I think it does serve some point of extra promotion,
but when I look back to my younger years when i was just a fan I also thought that stuff like this comes out of lack of ideas and commercialization ... now I grew up to see that it';s not always like that
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mubali
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Posted : Sep 24, 2008 07:42
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What I've found to be interesting at least mainly in the Dj department is how disposable the music can seem. I know djs that only play the new stuff or unreleased stuff. When I djed before I started to write music, I actively sought new music and tended to shelve older "played out" tracks into a category I call "Librarian Sets". While I would love all music to have more of a shelf life on dancefloors, sometimes I find it less enjoyable to hear a set where I know all the tracks and have heard them played a lot.
Back to the matter at hand... If psychedelic trance is supposed to be this rapidly evolving musical organism, then continually releasing music that is not but maybe 1 year old seems to regress it's personal evolution... Now many of you will say that psychedelic trance is not evolving, but I honestly feel that many of the changes in the music happen quite slowly and subtly, very much akin to the concept of what makes progressive or minimal stuff work for many people... Sometimes the more drastic changes or drastic trends tend to die off quickly without the fundamental foundation to support it.
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