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Russian site has ripped Cytopia.org tracks
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Enertopia
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Posted : Jul 27, 2007 01:46
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On 2006-04-09 14:29, Davor/Shuma wrote:
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On 2006-03-07 20:25, Morb wrote:
From Croatia there is two projects:
Parrket - IMO the most succesful project with progressive trance sound released on various labels (Tribal Vision, Candyflip, Pukka Music, Etc)
Shuma - progressive trance, so far they released 3-4 tracks on P.O.R.N. records.
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Also, there is few less known projects: Mokk, Twisted Twins, Shamantrixx, Konbjob, In Dust, Etc.
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this is partly correct.
parrket also releases full on and not only progressive psy trance.
we (shuma) released on tribal vision, groove control, hadshot, metamedia..and this months goes beef records, chaishop records and next few months will follow p.o.r.n. rec, plusquam 12" ep etc....and debut elektro non trance album will follow this year for sure...
mokk released on hadshot and ballonia (ep and compilation) and also some tracks under croatian labels and promo cds/videos and stuff...
twisted twins as i recall don`t do productiona at all they just dj under this name (and must say really good)
shamantrixx isn`t something that is good...mostly stolen presets and stuff...really fake project with no releases and no gigs at all...i don`t think they ever played somewere...
knobjob is really great project but unfortunately no releases till now...
in dust is ex for a long now...no releases also...
so from active stuff...only parrket and us do something....
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Is that Shamtrarixx you that they are talking about?
You have to start meditating and stop believing that music should be getting for free, unless you agree giving it for free.
From what I can see.....I understand why for free!!
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 27, 2007 07:05
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Oh you've met famous Shuma psytrance duo 
Well now that you're asking I've played ONLY as a dj and under name Shiva. I've never played any live and never made any releases under name shamantrixx. So in that sense no... it's not the same shamantrixx.
Shamantrixx is my forum nick name and Shuma knows me by it since I have annoyed him far more than I've annoyed you (so far) so his comment does not surprise me. Morb is a nice fellow who liked few of my old goa tracks so he mentioned it as a Shamantrixx tracks. Being a complete idiot Shuma stumbled to discredit me even thou there's nothing to discredit
I know how much I annoy some people so I was smart enough not to link my music with my web identity. For the last 5 years there's nothing that could be linked to my nickname. That allows me to express my view without affecting anyones opinion about my music and obviously I've made a good decision. Web is full of people who get offended by what I write and would be utterly happy to discredit me in any possible way in order to feel better them self. Shuma is just one of those people and I have a feeling that you've joined that group too
Now that I think about it ; you and Davor from Shuma could become a good friends... because enemy of your enemy is by it self your ally
But in the end my production and dj-ing have nothing to do with your attitude about freedom, money and music. So no matter how you take it you're just desperate in your effort to change the subject and build a credibility for your web ego. Nice try but you'll have to do better than that 
ps: I've just been to your my space page. You've really invested wast amount of money in your studio... no doubt about that! No wonder you want money for it
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UnderTow
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Posted : Jul 27, 2007 14:01
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Guys, this has really nothing to do with the topic any more. Attacking each other on topic is one thing but doing it off topic is getting out of order IMO.
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Enertopia
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Posted : Jul 27, 2007 15:23
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Actually, as Shamantrixx thinks is completely wrong, Im not an enemy at all, he put me in this position because I finaly made him realize that his point of view is not completely right. (SOME EXAMPLES MADE OUT OF TOPIC).
Specially when Cytopia opened his heart and let the people know what happened to the tracks he got on his site. And, instead of supporting and understaning his situation, this guy comes in and start saying that actually, the russian site did nothing wrong. And art should completly available for anybody who wants to GRAB.
I believe my point helped him to come back to earth to the year 2007 where not everything is an UTOPIA.
And if he strongly believes that GRABING somebody's WORK of art is right, then, at least don't mok them by telling people that we are living the wrong way by getting paid for artistic TIME put in the CREATION of artistic form of supply. www.myspace.com/enertopiapsy |
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cytopia
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Posted : Jul 27, 2007 18:56
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To get back to the point; this thread really shows alot. It indicates we have different ideas about what is accepatable or not and that it's a hard thing to talk about.
The whole file sharing drama is not completely black and white, I do believe alot of us have downloaded some H20 plugins not because we are thieves but because they are so damn expensive! The dynamic however being, that the reason the price is high, is because not enough people buy them, because they are abundantly available for download.
If everone who could afford to, did buy then things would be fine -same with music. Dj's and music lovers would buy, prices on Cytopia being fair -all would be in balance.
So speaking of utopian vision is one in which people who can afford things see that they have a responsability to contribute, so that energy goes back into the creative process.
I think from our side enough has been said.
Thanx 4 the input.
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cytopia
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Posted : Jul 27, 2007 19:16
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PS:
Example of just one of the hundreds of sites like this -->
http://qsound.ws/psychedelic/page/1/
I like the little logo they place on the covers making it look like they had something to do with it other than just ripping it.
A track of my own is here -->
http://qsound.ws/2007/06/26/servellen__innerbeavis_2007.html
Try downloading it, slick the rapidshare link.... try it ....
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Pavel
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Posted : Jul 28, 2007 00:30
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This logo looks alot like the Turbo Trance logo
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Zoolog
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Posted : Jul 30, 2007 09:42
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On 2007-07-28 00:30, Pavel wrote:
This logo looks alot like the Turbo Trance logo
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So it does...
To clarify my view, different from Shamantrixx's - If i ever came across a dude who had been sharing / selling my music on a web page (without my permission) ... i would feast on his liver and burn his remains...
Are you on the other hand just some dude who thinks its a cool and a perfectly ok idea to do so, wait until i sell your children to russian mobsters and see how you like that.
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 30, 2007 19:43
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yeah... that would make you so much better than them.
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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Zoolog
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Posted : Jul 31, 2007 16:03
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On 2007-07-30 19:43, shamantrixx wrote:
yeah... that would make you so much better than them.
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Well i would be doing humanity a favour...
Take in to perspective that they sold my babies first....
I generally dont believe in revenge, however sometimes it can be needed to make an example, to show the rest of the pack what happens when you step beyond certain boundries (in this case boundries entirely made up by me and my natural animalistic psychotic behaviour). www.parvati-records.com |
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 31, 2007 17:46
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as long as it makes you happy...
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 31, 2007 19:53
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the problem is the people who make money from warez, stealing tracks and selling them or making money with pirated software.it s really bad for us cause we could have some better vst,i think many good programers don t use their best algorythms or stay away from software cause of the piracy. |
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 31, 2007 22:48
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From one perspective you all support financial system but on the other hand you fail to see that involvement of money makes programmer invest less effort into software that could get riped of and by doing that he's "punishing" those people who pay for the software. This problem will get only worse during the time until the brake down of this monetary system, and I believe that we're close to that point.
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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mk47
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Posted : Jul 31, 2007 22:58
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break down the monetary system ... and go back to the barter system ?
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Aug 1, 2007 06:19
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I don't know what will be done when system goes down but I don't expect any replacement for it. Those who have resources will be just fine and those who have money will have enough toilet paper for the rest of the life.
Money is something that only the "middle class" is concerned by. Those "low class" people don't have any so they tend to value trade and mutual support. "Upper class" is gathering land, oil, gold, and other resources. If system brakes down it will be the "middle class" that will face the extinction. Those on the bottom and on the top will be less affected by it.
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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