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PoM
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Posted : Oct 1, 2012 13:51
the bx meter can use A weighting ,never tried it but its probably a good rms meter for measuring loudness
snowdogg
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Posted : Oct 2, 2012 21:02
Babaluma - thanks man for taking the time to explain!
"A System"? does it matter what algorithm/standard is used for RMS?

if three RMS meters give 3 different readings it semms quite pointless!
snowdogg
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Posted : Oct 2, 2012 21:02
Priest - nice work on those plugins!
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Posted : Oct 2, 2012 21:26
came across this freebie from ssl, you have to register http://www.solid-state-logic.com/music/X-ISM/           http://soundcloud.com/vipal
Upavas
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Posted : Oct 3, 2012 00:53
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On 2012-09-19 23:23, daark wrote:
when i "master" things i measure mostly the main section in RMS or the loudest RMS values in the track and it pretty much gives a me good view on the loudness of the track. Pretty much works when i A/B my things with other new released tracks. I know what RMS means.




The perceived loudness depends on how you master the track in general, if you have nothing but a bass, meaning lows and low mids in a track your rms meter can read -5 and it still doesn't sound very loud. I don't read too much into it,
although I use it like you said in the loudest part of a track, just to see where I am... but I must say, it doesn't really tell me all that much...

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PoM
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Posted : Oct 3, 2012 03:32
rms meters treat all frequency the same, not our ears , it need weighting to be more accurate . as a experiment maybe just equing out the low end and highs with a linear phase eq could work better for comparing loudness of tracks with a rms meter

http://www.noisemeters.com/help/faq/frequency-weighting.asp
often in gears specs like noise floor its measured with A weighting it mean it take into acount only where our ear are more sensistive... they use A weigntning on lot of prosummer converters for example, it s not the true noise floor !
that make sense to use this like on the bx meter when used for measuring loudness, it can only be more accurate
snowdogg
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Posted : Oct 3, 2012 14:43
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On 2012-10-03 03:32, PoM wrote:
rms meters treat all frequency the same, not our ears , it need weighting to be more accurate . as a experiment maybe just equing out the low end and highs with a linear phase eq could work better for comparing loudness of tracks with a rms meter

http://www.noisemeters.com/help/faq/frequency-weighting.asp
often in gears specs like noise floor its measured with A weighting it mean it take into acount only where our ear are more sensistive... they use A weigntning on lot of prosummer converters for example, it s not the true noise floor !
that make sense to use this like on the bx meter when used for measuring loudness, it can only be more accurate



thanks! cleared up a good bit for me mate cheers.
so then bx meter etc uses A Weighting does it? as does most rms meters?
PoM
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Posted : Oct 3, 2012 14:45
afaik only the bx meter have this option , it will show a different measure than usual rms meter but its a additional and usefull indicator of loudness when comparing tracks
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 3, 2012 15:12
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 3, 2012 15:57
thanks was looking for some others and found this http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=11884
Babaluma
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Posted : Oct 7, 2012 00:39
Some meters are very programmable, the RMS DigiCheck meter being the most versatile I have come across. The Sonoris Meter looks great, and you can choose LEQ weighting too.           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
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