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avilah
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Posted : Aug 27, 2008 16:13:44
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I'm going to go all virtual soon and want to obtain a nice soundcard. I'll probably go with the Apogee DAC with two xlr outs, but was wondering if anyone had any experience with the RME with pcmcia interface. I have an available pcmcia slot on my laptop and like the idea of the high speed connection over the usb connect of the apogee DAC. Does anyone have any sound comparison ideas? |
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Trip-
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Posted : Aug 27, 2008 17:07
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You refer to the Apogee Mini-DAC...
I had no idea it had an audio interface for the computer, but oh boy was I in the dark  I can't comment on how well this interface works on the computer, meaning latencies/software options. Soundwise it is a good operating converter. Same goes to RME - and I'm sure there are other options than just pcmcia...
One thing to note is that RME usually comes with a solid working software/driver with low latency operation.
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Greententacle
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Posted : Aug 27, 2008 18:06
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If your on Mac/Logic go for apogee |
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kajola
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Posted : Aug 27, 2008 19:17
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On 2008-08-27 16:13:44, avilah wrote:
I'm going to go all virtual soon and want to obtain a nice soundcard. I'll probably go with the Apogee DAC with two xlr outs, but was wondering if anyone had any experience with the RME with pcmcia interface. I have an available pcmcia slot on my laptop and like the idea of the high speed connection over the usb connect of the apogee DAC. Does anyone have any sound comparison ideas?
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i have the rme multiface with pcmcia card and i love it! great performance, stable drivers, verry good dsp mixer and digicheck analyzer programm..
there is nothing i can complain about!!!
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Kaz
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Posted : Aug 27, 2008 19:37
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In simple terms: Apogee have the better DAC quality-wise. There is no debate, no question, no doubt. I've been using it for a while now, and I've got to say that it's just very revealing and detailed (using the Mini-DAC, not sure if you're talking about that or the Duet). It offers nothing more than a DAC with 2xXLR and 1xHeadphone outputs. It has all kinds of cool things like advanced jitter-correction and so on, but these are just some technical features that mean "it sounds right", and it does. One single stereo channel, but quality is the determining factor.
The RME multiface on the other hand offer a lot of everything else. Rock solid low-latency performance with drivers for more or less any platform, rich features, DSP mixing (much better than most software mixers)... and super-competative prices for their products. But on audio conversion, it simply does not have the capabilities offered by external, DAC-only solutions.
These are very different types of capabilities - they are NOT competing products.
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Posted : Aug 28, 2008 01:02
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both are great cards ..... Duet's well priced n works really well with mac too ... I would love to have a rme too though 
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Nemesys
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Posted : Aug 28, 2008 21:59
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Apogee MiniDac uses the same X series technology, it will blow out any RME converters, They are in a different leuge.
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Fingax
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Posted : Aug 29, 2008 02:25
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never used apogee. but rme rocks big time, got a multiface. go for fireface thou
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Kaz
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Posted : Aug 29, 2008 15:02
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The bottom line depends on the way you use your card, your budget, and interoperability needs with a desktop solution. If you intend to work on your laptop only to get a good raw draft on the road, on an OSX/Logic combination, Apogee Duet is the clear winner. If you already have an external DAC which is just too clunky to carry around in your studio, RME is an easy choice.
In order to give you a recommendation it would help to know if:
1) Is your laptop your main music production machine?
2) Do you have a permanent studio?
3) What software do you use?
4) Is this machine intended for live acts, DJ sets, or just audio production?
Fingax: Are you perhaps payed by the RME marketting division? You may just be causing someone with a Lynx mixing card on his desktop to waste his money on something he doesn't need. And my Mini-DAC will kick your multiface's ass anyday 
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 29, 2008 18:57
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On 2008-08-28 21:59, Nemesys wrote:
Apogee MiniDac uses the same X series technology, it will blow out any RME converters, They are in a different leuge.
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i really doubt it |
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Yuli
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Posted : Aug 30, 2008 08:15
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It's not that I have any idea at all about the apogee ( never heard it I admit ) but I seriously doubt that any of you hardcore technology masterminds will know to differentiate between RME and Apogee when done a blind test.
Personally, I have been working with Multiface since it's day one on the market and never thought of replacing it.. in fact I got two of these units for last 5 years. No complaints, and I seriously doubt that I would actually "hear" the quality of the sound in my studio getting better if I would change the Multiface for an Apogee.
If one wants to get his sound to the right spot, then dealing with the Amplifier and the studio Monitors will be the right thing to do. A man with a "master plan" is often a woman |
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AvS
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Posted : Aug 30, 2008 13:29
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There was a blind test on Gearslutz a few years back. Apogee Rosetta 800 vs some RME converters - arg cant remember wich one - but the point is that the RME cost a lot less and almost everyone could hear a difference and by far the most, including me, preferred the RME.
I love RME. Have the the multiface and ADI-8 pro.
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 30, 2008 15:57
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it was the fireface 800 if i m right |
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Atherian
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Posted : Aug 30, 2008 20:17
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On 2008-08-30 08:15, Yuli wrote:
It's not that I have any idea at all about the apogee ( never heard it I admit ) but I seriously doubt that any of you hardcore technology masterminds will know to differentiate between RME and Apogee when done a blind test.
Personally, I have been working with Multiface since it's day one on the market and never thought of replacing it.. in fact I got two of these units for last 5 years. No complaints, and I seriously doubt that I would actually "hear" the quality of the sound in my studio getting better if I would change the Multiface for an Apogee.
If one wants to get his sound to the right spot, then dealing with the Amplifier and the studio Monitors will be the right thing to do.
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well the difference in quality between a shitty DAC and a good one would be mainly felt in the definition of the low end. your right good monitors and amp is key but it doesn't really mean much if you don't have a good dac i feel... its all about having good everything to get good sound and the converters are really important |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Sep 1, 2008 13:17
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converterwise the apogee is above RME. they say... sometimes
It's a good question for http://www.gearslutz.com if you want to be flamed
Has been answered 1000times. Apogee converters are considered above RME, but there was some test once A/B fireface against rossetta and most picked FF blindly...
No personal experience though
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