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JohnnyBGood
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Posted : Feb 19, 2010 20:50:34
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I was watching a show about the evolution of rock, and Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden, and one of the best voices ever) was talking about rising 6th.
Basically, it means using the 6th note in the major scale in the melody in an up-and-down manner (going from the root to the 6th and back and so on) - like in Frank Sinatra's 'My Way' (think of the first verse).
Aparently it has some 'magical influence' on listeners, creating a catchy hook.
Isn't psycho-acoustics grand?
Do you know of any other psycho-acoustic tricks?
(example, the k-bbk-bbk-bbk-bb is some kind of a trance hook) |
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antidentity
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Posted : Feb 19, 2010 20:57
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polyrhythms are kind of like a dance music hook - overlapped time signatures... |
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soulfood
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Posted : Feb 19, 2010 21:33
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On 2010-02-19 20:50:34, JohnnyBGood wrote:
I was watching a show about the evolution of rock, and Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden, and one of the best voices ever) was talking about rising 6th.
Basically, it means using the 6th note in the major scale in the melody in an up-and-down manner (going from the root to the 6th and back and so on) - like in Frank Sinatra's 'My Way' (think of the first verse).
Aparently it has some 'magical influence' on listeners, creating a catchy hook.
Isn't psycho-acoustics grand?
Do you know of any other psycho-acoustic tricks?
(example, the k-bbk-bbk-bbk-bb is some kind of a trance hook)
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I love the 6th. It's a real thinking mans interval  There's too much root third and 5th stuff going down in modern dance music. |
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JohnnyBGood
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Posted : Feb 19, 2010 21:49
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On 2010-02-19 21:33, soulfood wrote:
I love the 6th. It's a real thinking mans interval There's too much root third and 5th stuff going down in modern dance music.
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+1
I love 7th as well, but it has been used over and over |
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soulfood
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Posted : Feb 19, 2010 21:57
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On 2010-02-19 21:49, JohnnyBGood wrote:
I love 7th as well, but it has been used over and over
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But then of course all the notes can be interesting if you mix it up a little.
I'd like to hear more of this scale:
1,2b,3,4,5,6b,7.
It's like a phrygian dominant 3rd flat 7 thing I think. It's cool because if you play it up and down it's got a double mystery as I call it. If you play it you'll know what I mean. But if you play through 2 octaves of it it sounds weird because the 7th,1st and 3rd occur within the space of 3 semitones.
I'm sure some folk find it quite disonant, but there's nothing as spicey to my ears |
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JohnnyBGood
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Posted : Feb 19, 2010 23:12
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On 2010-02-19 21:57, soulfood wrote:
I'd like to hear more of this scale:
1,2b,3,4,5,6b,7.
It's like a phrygian dominant 3rd flat 7 thing I think. It's cool because if you play it up and down it's got a double mystery as I call it. If you play it you'll know what I mean. But if you play through 2 octaves of it it sounds weird because the 7th,1st and 3rd occur within the space of 3 semitones.
I'm sure some folk find it quite disonant, but there's nothing as spicey to my ears
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Cool Stuff !
Try listening to old Marty Friedman material, he used to incorporate all sorts of 'odd' scales |
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Chemogen
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Posted : Feb 20, 2010 10:34
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Try this in A Minor
A C E F ( 1 - 3 - 5 - 6 )
One of the most pleasing melodic chains I know. 
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"42"
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Posted : Feb 20, 2010 10:48
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On 2010-02-19 20:50:34, JohnnyBGood wrote:
I was watching a show about the evolution of rock,
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mmm... where can I find this video?
 https://soundcloud.com/avivtech |
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kaidun
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Posted : Feb 20, 2010 17:11
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thats just a question of scales..
its definitely a god step to learn harmonics.
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JohnnyBGood
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Posted : Feb 20, 2010 20:20
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On 2010-02-20 10:48, "42" wrote:
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On 2010-02-19 20:50:34, JohnnyBGood wrote:
I was watching a show about the evolution of rock,
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mmm... where can I find this video?
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On channel 8, Israel.
I'll try to find out the original name of the show. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 20, 2010 20:46
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My music theory is shite due to learning every instrument, by ear.
Can someone do a music theory idiot's post about this rising 6th business, in order for me to understand what you people are on about?
http://soundcloud.com/martianarts |
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ohshit
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Posted : Feb 20, 2010 20:58
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