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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 10:03:51
Hey all, first post here.... HI!
I'm trying to make a reverse kick sound using Sound Forge, and then for use in Ableton. Does anyone have any tips?
I make my kick by generating a simple sine wave at 55hz (A), pitch shift it down 24 semitones 2 times at about 40% to get that nice pop, then envelope filter it down at 25/25% and then again at 0/50% for a nice solid kick in a quarter note. I've tried just reversing the sample, and also tried doing all the steps above in reverse, but it's still not sounding right.
It might not even be a kick I'm trying to reproduce, but it's a low frequency sweep usually at the beginning or end of a measure, or during breakdowns.... and is in the spot of a kick.
Any ideas how that reverse kick / sweep is made?
Thanks in advance.
makus
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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 10:06
you take a kick sample and reverse it. by reversing i mean a special process you have in any sequencer/audio editor. simple as that.
that's a reversed kick.
maybe you aim to something else? post example maybe? www.overdreamstudio.com
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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 10:10
As an example... From the Compressor vs. Materia - Dual Resonance Album. Track name - Relativity first instance is at :39
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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 10:43
Dunno, tried doing the simple thing and just reverse it manually, but it just doesn't land right where it peaks... even moving it around still doesn't sound the same.
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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 11:02
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On 2010-02-03 10:43, SCircuit wrote:
Dunno, tried doing the simple thing and just reverse it manually, but it just doesn't land right where it peaks... even moving it around still doesn't sound the same.
so, you have timing problems?
do you use reversed crashes?, its the same with reversed kicks.the audio reversed sample has to end before the new beat/bar starts.
the track that you mean... i listened to it on youtube, and im not sure (bad quality/speakers), but i think there is just a little fade in, before the normal kick comes in. its not a whole reversed kick.
for such fade ins, take your kick, reverse it, cut about the last quarter of it (removing the click at the end!, try around a little bit how much you have to cut), and place the sample before your normal kick. it should be a liquidid crossover (fade in).
this method commonly is used with reversed reverbs of lead sounds or voices.
try around it sounds great.
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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 20:04
Cutting off the click was the key, as well as tightening up the decay, sustain, and release a little. Also sent it through a return track with some very light distortion and resampled it. I got it to work thanks!
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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 21:11
btw sometimes time stretching kick give nice results also. don't know what other style besides psy would accept that kind of effect www.overdreamstudio.com
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Posted : Feb 4, 2010 21:45
This forum is awesome... wish I'd have found it a long time ago.
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Posted : Feb 4, 2010 21:47
add some bit crusher for more killarg sound XD
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Posted : Feb 4, 2010 23:05
Lengthen your clip so it falls into a quantized interval.
Then when you reverse, the reversed kick will fall directly on the quantize line.
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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 02:56
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On 2010-02-04 21:45, SCircuit wrote:
This forum is awesome... wish I'd have found it a long time ago.
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Posted : Feb 10, 2010 02:50
i think i might know what you mean... i was thinking about this for my music the other day as well and i think i know what to do -
take you're reverse kick sample, and play it 12 octaves slower so that the bass sweeps over a longer period of time and the bass is more heavy
also possibly layer the original revers kick sample over the 12 octaves slower one so that they both end at the same time and cut the lows on the original and maybe cut the highs on the slowed one. don't just stretch it unless you want it to sound gritty, make it the kind where its slow and pitched down like a record player does.
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Posted : Feb 10, 2010 04:11
That reversed kick effect called my attention on this track, in the break at 2:54!
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Posted : Feb 10, 2010 13:51
dude in cubase it's one of the easyest thing !
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Posted : Feb 10, 2010 13:52
as makus sayd
just open a nice kick sample in the audio sequencer, click with right bottom on the sample, process - reverse!
