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Tomos
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Posted : Aug 8, 2007 01:18
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I've been a bit sloppy with my reverb these last few months and have got into weird habits. I usually use the reverb on the synth if available, set it to something nice and forget about it.
I also have a meaty Dual Core machine and I can stick reverbs on every channel and ignore the cpu for the most part.
I could answer this question myself by trying it out, but I'm interested to see what all people do with their reverbs. Do you design each reverb to its own sound, or set up one decent reverb on a bus and send each channel to the same single effect? I guess this would give your song a more together/cohesive feel if everything sounds like its in the same room. But equally, would you get a better sound if you adjusted each reverb to the sound?
Any thoughts?
I used the search and somebody linked to this article:
http://www.harmony-central.com/articles/tips/technique_reverb/
But thats just one persons view, and he isn't necessarily making such 'spacey' music. |
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Alias
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Posted : Aug 8, 2007 02:39
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there is very different opinions about this.....it depends on how you working!
i designing each reverb to its own sound i guess
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dtd
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Posted : Aug 8, 2007 10:50
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hi Tomos,
you are right, today we have the opportunity to use many different reverb "units" (=VST plugins), with each a different setting. and you were right also to say that a few reverb units only yield a more cohesive feel. in my opinion, it suffices to use a few reverb units only, set up on group/effect channels, then sending to them from any channel in need of reverb. this was also the way it was done classically, where you had only a few hardware reverb units. and it worked  keeping it simple often helps to not loose oneself in technical details.
i often use two reverb units
1) a shorter reverb for e.g. drums (e.g. to make the snare less dead sounding, when recorded in a dry room (or using a dry sample)) and
2) a longer reverb to "fit sounds into a room"
if you need a special reverb for sound design purposes then using a dedicated reverb unit makes sense to me. otherwise (reverb for mixing purposes), i think a few units will do.
hope this helped
cheers!
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 8, 2007 11:35
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if you need a special reverb for sound design purposes then using a dedicated reverb unit makes sense to me. otherwise (reverb for mixing purposes), i think a few units will do.
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ya i just want to add to this that for sound design puposes of course you can go nuts with your reverbs when creating all sorts of drones sweeps and atmos. just do it 
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Alias
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Posted : Aug 8, 2007 13:36
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On 2007-08-08 10:50, dtd wrote:
hi Tomos,
you are right, today we have the opportunity to use many different reverb "units" (=VST plugins), with each a different setting. and you were right also to say that a few reverb units only yield a more cohesive feel. in my opinion, it suffices to use a few reverb units only, set up on group/effect channels, then sending to them from any channel in need of reverb. this was also the way it was done classically, where you had only a few hardware reverb units. and it worked keeping it simple often helps to not loose oneself in technical details.
i often use two reverb units
1) a shorter reverb for e.g. drums (e.g. to make the snare less dead sounding, when recorded in a dry room (or using a dry sample)) and
2) a longer reverb to "fit sounds into a room"
if you need a special reverb for sound design purposes then using a dedicated reverb unit makes sense to me. otherwise (reverb for mixing purposes), i think a few units will do.
hope this helped
cheers!
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tnx man!....i learned something new from you!
btw: any thoughts about reverb for mixing purposes?
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Tomos
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Posted : Aug 8, 2007 14:27
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Thanks for the replies.
I'm doing a short production course to fill in a few technical gaps in my knowledge, the guy teaching says he never uses reverb, instead he uses delays because they sound cleaner and don't use the the whole stereo width at once, or create unwanted low end.
Reverbs and delays sound quite different and I think in Trance reverbs have a much more space filling sound, but they can clutter a mix.
So the next question.. has anyone replaced all their reverbs with delays with any success?
Once again, thanks for the feedback |
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 8, 2007 16:00
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ya tomos, both dry mixes and heavyly reverbed mixes are common in techno and trance music.
also like you said yourself sometimes certain sounds you want them harsh and cold and not reverbed and pretty... all depends on the specific idea you have for that track.
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makus
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Posted : Aug 8, 2007 16:47
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On 2007-08-08 10:50, dtd wrote:
i often use two reverb units
1) a shorter reverb for e.g. drums (e.g. to make the snare less dead sounding, when recorded in a dry room (or using a dry sample)) and
2) a longer reverb to "fit sounds into a room"
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yeap, exactly, for me that technique does 90% of the job.
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RenderingRebel
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Posted : Aug 8, 2007 19:01
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I use reverbs to mix in "3D"
Create layers for your sounds.
Most of the time i have 3 differnt busses(short, medium, long)
And maybe just a very very long reverb for sounds that need it
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Tomos
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Posted : Aug 9, 2007 03:12
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I'm gonna strip all the reverbs out of my current project and try a convolution plugin I just purchased using sends. I'll report back and maybe post an A/B so you can hear.
In the meantime, I was wondering if anyone could help me achieve this smash-reverb.
http://download.yousendit.com/23CEC8E63331172C
I've been trying every percussion element I can find and I still can't get it. It's driving me nuts, everything I reverb sounds too high pitched or just plain wrong. |
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sy000321
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Posted : Aug 9, 2007 03:22
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i rarely use reverb on anything, unless the patch is really really begging for it...
dtd method is the classical method for reverb: one aux with a short, other with a long.
when outboard was the only solution, few had enough $$$ for more than 2 reverb units, so this technique sticked and i believe is still common.
doing so in this "new" vst world will save you a lot of cpu too and maybe help you get clear mixes.
one usefull tip: cut the low freqs from the reverb, unless its being used while the kick/bass arent playing
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Aug 9, 2007 03:54
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On 2007-08-08 16:47, makus wrote:
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On 2007-08-08 10:50, dtd wrote:
i often use two reverb units
1) a shorter reverb for e.g. drums (e.g. to make the snare less dead sounding, when recorded in a dry room (or using a dry sample)) and
2) a longer reverb to "fit sounds into a room"
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yeap, exactly, for me that technique does 90% of the job.
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I tend to add reverbs to my mixer as I need them but it almost always works out like this. Sometimes I'll have also a third reverb on a send, doing early reflections - mainly for top-end percussion where I want to put the sounds in a space without having an actual reverb tail.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 9, 2007 15:38
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Posted : Aug 10, 2007 02:08
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what does this "early reflections" mean?
would anyone care to explain please....
thx
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 10, 2007 11:10
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early reflections are the initial parts of your reverb sound, basically just delayed and filtered reflections of the source material, without the "buildup" and tail of the reverb.
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