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Reverb/delay and cpu load

Ascension
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 16:24:43
I just thought of this and figured I'd see if anyone here knows for sure. Does using a delay/reverb within a vsti use less cpu load than a stand alone vst (routing your oscs to the reverb/delay rather than throwing a reverb/delay vst onto that channel)?           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 16:26
Depends

Ascension
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 16:29


That's pretty much what I figured. I was hoping someone could give me an "in general" response.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 16:33
Well general queries usually get a general response
Medea
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 16:36
depends



it totally depends on what particular VSTi and VST-reverb you use and with wich settings.           http://soundcloud.com/aedem
Ascension
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 16:47
How about Albino 3 to Ableton Reverb?

Any examples someone has had experience with would help to know too...           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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shellbound
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 16:54
1. turn the reverb on in Albino and look at the CPU load.
2. turn off the reverb in albino, turn on ableton reverb, and look at the cpu load.
3. profit???           https://soundcloud.com/dead-end-dance
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Ascension
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 17:07
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On 2009-03-06 16:54, septa wrote:
1. turn the reverb on in Albino and look at the CPU load.
2. turn off the reverb in albino, turn on ableton reverb, and look at the cpu load.
3. profit???






Hard to do while I'm at work.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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-aeon-
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 17:47
some DAWs let you check the CPU consumption of individual plugins (REAPER, for instance).

generally, native plugins tend to be pretty efficiently coded. generally, they tend to be designed around running multiple instances rather than the highest possible sound quality.

generally, onboard synth effects tend to be quite basic and therefore efficient. generally, they tend to be not that good they are usually designed for sound creation rather than as standalone units... i can't think of many synth reverbs which are wonderful.

personally speaking, even in 'high-quality' mode i hated Ableton's reverb (for a long time it wasn't even true stereo!) and i would generally avoid it.
Medea
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 17:49
btw, reverb in Massive is quite nice, as i remeber.

I don't use Massive, though, cos it crashes...           http://soundcloud.com/aedem
Ascension
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 17:57
Awe, I've grown quite fond of Ableton's reverb . I haven't really checked any others out since I'm still learning many other things.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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bandarlog
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 18:50
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On 2009-03-06 17:47, -aeon- wrote:
i can't think of many synth reverbs which are wonderful.



massive and gladiator, but those are the only ones I can think of. But both have specific qualities for reverb and aren't as versatile as plugin reverbs.

My guess would be that the only way you know for sure is to check your cpu, as mentioned. But I wouldn't let the economy on cpu usage define my choice. Use the best & bounce the rest (and the best).
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x-rayz
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 18:53
usually external reverbs use more cpu if u use good ones-meaning with complicated algorhythms.. ableton reverb is made so it doesnt use cpu so much so it could be similar usage like when using synths reverb.. however its nice to use synths reverbs on some occasions..           http://www.facebook.com/xrayzproductions
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 18:53
I think it also has to do with how much you are sending. Correct me if I am wrong but I remember reading that when really small amounts of processing need to be made (like sending too little of a signal to a reverb/delay plug in) the computer has to break the whole thing down to floating point processing. Doing this on a lot of channels, means CPU drain.
Is that for real, or is that bollocks?           
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Ascension
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 18:54
Yeah I wasn't planning on making this a deciding factor, it was more for information/ a possible way to save cpu space for those that want to.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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