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Reverb and delay is to use in everything?
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makus
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Posted : Mar 23, 2011 03:25
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On 2011-03-22 22:27, kotton wrote:
How many different reverb units do u use per song.
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is that even important at all? say, he replies 22. or 0. or maybe he is a reverb maniac and he uses only 1 sample of clicking mouse and then synthesizes all other sounds using reverb feedback. what next?  use as much as you need, bro!
 
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Nectarios
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Posted : Mar 23, 2011 14:17
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On 2011-03-22 11:19, disco hooligans wrote:
The only thing that is completely dry in our tunes are the kick, bass and eventually hi-hats.
I always have a couple of tight rooms/plates where I send sounds that I want to sound dry...just a hint.
Generally I mix in delays and reverbs a couple of clicks below of what I think is enough, as mastering does tend to bring them up slightly.
Peace out.
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How many different reverb units do u use per song. All on sends?
Also, do you ppl use delays on a sends or as a track effect?
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I have used reverbs on inserts but very occasionaly, like when I have one or two massive drones that I wanted some mad long resonating "other worldly" reverb algo. I also put a sidechain compressor after them long reverbs to get them pumping as well. Just something I like.
My standard practise is to have 5-6 reverbs on sends. Going from tight to medium to long. Then I send whatever channel I want, accordingly, even though 80% of the reverb tasks are done by 2-3 reverbs and use the rest of them for special FX kinda stuff, like automating a main lead coming from a far long ambience, into your face and then sit on a tight hall reverb to do the riff.
Delays I use as inserts mostly, but when I do put delays on sends, I also put a reverb in that send as I want the wet delay sound to have a touch of reverb as well.
To make a more clear example.
A lead sound that is being sent to, say buss 1 where there is a tight reverb and buss 7 where there is only a delay inserted, will have the tight reverb of buss 1, on the triggered notes of the lead, yet the delayed effect from buss 7 will not be in any room, which is something I do not like.
Peace out.
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Giannis
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Posted : Mar 23, 2011 17:41
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So when using reverb as a tool to glue the mix together and not as an effect that you want to be hear which is the best option, a convolution or an algo? What type? What about the values of the parameters? I don’t ask about specific numbers, generally… just for a start, what to pay more attention to? And is this job better to be done at the end of the mix? |
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Posted : Mar 23, 2011 18:57
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On 2011-03-23 17:41, Giannis wrote:
So when using reverb as a tool to glue the mix together and not as an effect that you want to be hear which is the best option, a convolution or an algo? What type? What about the values of the parameters? I don’t ask about specific numbers, generally… just for a start, what to pay more attention to? And is this job better to be done at the end of the mix?
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I use Space Designer mainly and the Sonnox reverb. Like I said types of reverbs depend on your taste and how busy the mix is. I have all kinds of reverbs depending on which ones I want use, from tight to long, with various early reflection and decay tail settings, depending on what I feel like using on the day.
I do not add reverb to sounds at the end of the mix, simply because I enjoy listening to the sounds I make with their reverbs, rather than completely dry sounds.
And always keep sounds a little more dry than I think is enough, as the mastering process, does tend to bring them up a little.
Peace out.
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kotton
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Posted : Mar 24, 2011 00:22
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Thanks alot for explanation Disco Hoolingans!
I was kinnda afraid to use too much of different reverbs in trance music (I usually have only one long and a short one) but I will experiment.
Thanks again!
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Giannis
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Posted : Mar 24, 2011 01:12
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Ok I just wondered if there are some kind of rules when using reverb just little bit for that kind of purpose
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Remy [POF]
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Posted : Mar 24, 2011 03:44
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On 2011-03-22 11:19, disco hooligans wrote:
The only thing that is completely dry in our tunes are the kick, bass and eventually hi-hats.
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in techno i sometimes use reverb on kick, bass, and i always use reverb on hi-hats.
i use reverb everywhere lol... not a big fan of delay i gotta admit...
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Remy [POF]
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Posted : Mar 24, 2011 03:47
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anyhow, i think that reverb is super important in a mix, the depth factor to get that deep sound, most psytrance is really dry compared again too techno, to be honest making techno for the last 8months has made me progress so much production wise, its just sick.
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 24, 2011 04:41
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in full on and iguess in all style the right verb and setting can sound great on kick imo, no one will hear the kick is in reverb but when you bypass it,ouch..the verb can give a nice hifi touch , more expensive sound , dunno how to say... even gated verb can work great on full on kick,it can improve the sound, more phat ,more depth but no one will tell you the kick in reverb if it s well tweaked . |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Mar 24, 2011 04:59
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I use less and less reverb as time goes on.
I don't use send verbs at all - only ever inserts.
I also increasingly find that I like old school diffuser delays over verbs or delays, which feature some but not all of the properties of both - not as tight as a synced delay, but not as space gobbling as a verb.
Very little of my percussion goes through a verb standardly, although at one point, nearly all of it did. So I guess my sound and what I'm trying to do has changed a lot. I nowadays want the most direct, super punchy sound I can get, and that means virtually nothing on the percussion apart from comps and EQ. I find that it is still very possible to make a believable sound without recourse to reverb - and it sounds far more upfront (unsurprisingly) for it.
Big FX reverbs I use algo reverbs for, subtle space reverbs I tend to go convolution.
What can I say? I know this is not how people typically work, but it works for me really well.
Of course, I've been through a lot of experimentation over the years with verbs, and this is just the sound I'm after - if send verbs work for someone, then don't mind me!
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Nectarios
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Posted : Mar 24, 2011 12:07
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On 2011-03-24 04:59, Speakafreaka wrote:
I use less and less reverb as time goes on.
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I went through that phase in the mid 00's when making, playing most importantly, hearing other people playing my breakbeat tunes and I was in the dancefloor.
There are effectively two real life situations considering music that is being played on big systems. Big P.A.s in a room (indoor clubs) and big P.A.s in a field (outdoor parties).
Any dry sound in my mixes had the club's reverb, so there were effectively, no dry sounds in my mixes, unless I was right in front of the P.A. getting so much direct sound that the room's effect was less perceived.
Whereas outdoors my mixes sounded really dry, which is why I opted for putting tight reverbs, just a hint to make things sound good outdoors and when standing really close to a P.A indoors.
Its all a matter of taste, I just don't like really dry sounds in my mixes.
Peace out.
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aXis
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Posted : Mar 24, 2011 13:27
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bass wit no reverb has abt 0 more years to live on .
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Mar 24, 2011 13:55
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Aye, agreed DH - it is all a matter of taste.
I started to find that there was a 'grainy' quality to my mixes when I put all the percussion through even very subtle verbs that quite literally drove me nuts!
Having said that, I have access to better verbs now, so maybe I'll try again.
Would be interested to know if its a flaw in my technique, or a flaw in the verbs I was using.
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