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Bloodclot
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Posted : Jul 26, 2008 22:09:52
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I'm currently using FL7 and don't have a professional sound card running at the moment.
Are there any plugins or some techniques I could use to get better quality rendering(until I get my soundcard)?
How is everyone else doing it anyway..just out of curiosity.
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bukboy
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Posted : Jul 26, 2008 23:06
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rendering is always fully digital, so your soundcard would not be involved in the process, however if u mix on a bad soundcard then u wont b able to hear or setup how its supposed to be rendered.
I think the soundcard is as important as your sound rig functionally, so much so that u should see it pointless to upgrade one without the other. |
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
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Posted : Jul 26, 2008 23:19
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Soundcard has nothing to do with the rendering quality...
In fact, if you don't have to record external devices as microphone, synth, guitar etc., you can make good quallity music with any cheap soundcard.
If you use only PC and Vst's, (no extenal synth or analog devices to record), you can make music with the incorporated mainboard soundcard and it will sound as good as a 1000 Euro soundcard.
Why ?? Because you use the soundcard only for audio-monitoring or for lower latency delay when you have to synchonize external midi devices ... Rendering and burning the finished track on a CD is strictly connected with the CPU and RAM, not with soundcard !
So, for a better rendering quality i suggest you a better mix of the track...hehehe !
There is nothing else you can do !
FL7 -> good track mix -> 32bit rendering = Perfect track !
That's the secret !
Off topic:
I personaly use a Sb Live in my studio, and trust me, soundcard will be my last thing to invest money in it, because for me it's worthles !
For recording external devices i use a profi HD Recorder than i transfer the files via USB on my PC.
So, why to spend 1000 Euro on a soundcard when i can buy with the same money a profi hardware equipment which i use it both in studio and for live acts ?
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"ATMA - Music Revolution"
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
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Posted : Jul 26, 2008 23:23
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On 2008-07-26 23:06, bukboy wrote:
rendering is always fully digital, so your soundcard would not be involved in the process, however if u mix on a bad soundcard then u wont b able to hear or setup how its supposed to be rendered.
I think the soundcard is as important as your sound rig functionally, so much so that u should see it pointless to upgrade one without the other.
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i agree....but all the new soundcards have 24 bit internal playback...so there is no audibile difference between a 100 Euro soundcard and 1000 Euro soundcard !
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Upavas
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Posted : Jul 26, 2008 23:34
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 27, 2008 00:52
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cheap sound card ll affect your monitoring cause of bad d/a converters. |
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avduka
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Posted : Jul 27, 2008 00:58
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I think there is a big difference in soundcard between a 100 euro and a 1000 euro even if the sound is only being played out of the computer. I can sure tell the difference in sound between my virus soundcard, x station soundcard and the old emu 1616m soundcard. THe thing that matters is the converters part of the soundcard. The signal still has to go from digital to analog so yea there is a big difference in a 100 and 1000 euro.
A good soundcard will sure make your sound better even if you do everything in digital domain.
I think its very important part of studio. |
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bukboy
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Posted : Jul 27, 2008 12:57
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Atma, there is a HUGE difference between a cheap soundcard and a decent soundcard, (in monitoring) Much more pronounced than between a cheap and expensive cd player. In fact monitoring is all you actually need a soundcard for, (if you're not recording live instruments like I dont) since the vst's generate all the sounds digitally, and the mixing also happens digitally.
Whats the point of having expensive monitors if you cant hear the music you're making coz u cant play it back properly. Its like buying an audiophile hifi and plugging a motherboard soundcard playing mp3s as a source. Flawed I think.
Then again if you dont have decent monitors, dont worry about the soundcard either. 
I think its a case of you should match your equipment so that the weakest link in the chain is not crippling the rig, and a bad source is definitely that. i.e. it affects everything. |
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bukboy
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Posted : Jul 27, 2008 13:09
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Bloodclot - If you're mixing on earphones, or bad monitors, then buy a medium range card, like an maudio, or an audigy. They are reasonably cheap and will impress you with their precision even on cheap hardware.
If you have expensive monitors, then you should really consider something decent (192Khz, 32bit 7.1 sort of thing with SNR's above 114db, and a flat -3db range)
Whatever you do, do not use an onboard motherboard soundcard (unless u just wanna literally play around.) they get lots of interference from activity on the motherboard, for example if your hard drives working, then you will also hear a noise from the output for the duration of the HDD activity. Also they use a lot of cpu power which u could use for vst instead. The output stage is also usually not powerful enough to drive a decent output(like a pair of dj earphones) and you will hear distorted bass if you crank the volume past 40%. At least in my experience. |
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Upavas
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Posted : Jul 27, 2008 20:53
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Jul 27, 2008 20:59
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Thanks. I really thought my soundcard would have everything to do with quality sound.
@bukboy - Yes, at the moment I'm just playing around and learning using a good pair of headphones. Yeah, you're right, the bass does get distorted and it sounds horrible.
Thanks for the help people
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