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nova
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Posted : Apr 24, 2004 15:49
just to let you know full on...
the univers is complexed with circles of energies that only in the past few years have been descoverd by the man.
you know that energies can be hit or light or other things which creats waves and by this the human eye can explore them.

latly it has been descoverd that those energies are always in movment but stay in one shape, human shape.
there is a direct contact with the human body and those energies.

there is much farther then machines and probably more then what we know...
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Posted : Apr 24, 2004 18:05
Obviously this is a very complex issue. I don't have the pretension to convince anyone here. Just wanna hear different opinions. Your opinion is very peculiar, Nova.

But what are you talking about? Who discovered these "circles of energies"? And in which article it was published? Because I'm a scientist, and I won't believe in "circles of energy" just because someone is telling me that.

What I mean by "extremely complex nanomachines" is that we are made of nano components (small molecules, structural and catalytic proteins, etc) assembled in a very organized way.

We have no choice, but to keep living. Just like your computer have no choice but to keep working (unless you use Windows ). Your cells can't stop working/living because they have all it's components assembled in such a way that they're "programed" to do their work.

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nova
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Posted : Apr 24, 2004 19:32
well... if my body was compared to my computer i was dead long time ago

the explanation that i gave was very "poor" just to be more understood. (and my english is not very good as well )

this is a combination of Astronomy and the Kabbalah (by the way, you can find simular things in the eastern religions)

Astronomy... those "circles of energies" are the frequencies which are the reasolt to those energies. and this speqtrum of frequencies is simular to speqtrum of colors (=shape of energy = frequency) so scientists managed to build a map of those colors (i think and almost sure that its not done yet) and saw it creats a "shape"... walking with those line they are carefuly says that this shape is a human shape (but not like you think.. its more complex)

now the kabbalah... im not into religions and like you im walking by scientifical facts but the kabbalah says the exsact thing including maps wich describe it very clearly... and the kabbalah was wrriten handerds of years ago. it also says lots of scientifical facts that are only now known to us...

still... what i just wrote is very very poor and im sure that my knowlege is also poor about this metter... farthere more, it would take me something like 20 pages to write all about it.

i advice you scientist to check those things and you might find them very interesting.
i wish i had links to give you but im sure that you'll find something if you search it.

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nova
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Posted : Apr 24, 2004 19:40
man... what a brain wosh! im sorry           just flow baby... just flow...
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Posted : Apr 24, 2004 22:54
Thank you for sharing your point of view...
I'll do a search just to learn more about it.
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Anak
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Posted : Apr 25, 2004 11:03
the kabbalah.....had a time when i was pretty interested ion it and wanted to learn about it....so i took a book from the library and started reading...til i read the phrase "reading about the kabbalah will make u go nuts if you're not too serious". i closed the thing and brought it back
i like mystics tho, i'm interested in religion. human is a believing creature, everyone belives in something, even atheists, which i believe are the most insecure people on earth. what u believe doesnt matter....@ green channel...there is no one god....there is a true one indeed, but no wrong one.
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Apr 25, 2004 16:06
My point exactly Ana. there is only one god, because there isn't a right or a wrong god only one true energy (which I think is god). The
Kaballah is very exciting, I suggest you all watch the movie; PIE (like the mathematical symbol, by Darren Aronofsky, also the creator of Requiem for a dream).
nova
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Posted : Apr 25, 2004 17:56
the kabbalah is exciting indeed, but its very very importent to read about it first and to learn about it befor you are choosing to read in it.           just flow baby... just flow...
The Green Channel
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Posted : Apr 25, 2004 21:37
You are right.           "Love is a way of life"

(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna)
manu
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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 07:10
God created science.. and used it to create us. so whats wrong ? and whats there to flip so much on scientific realities ?
karnaf
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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 14:57
Quote:

On 2004-04-18 20:36, Bardo wrote:
would like to know, just as a matter of fact... who of the isratrance members still beleive in god, and who in here are atheist.

would be good to know your toughts of "whats next after death".



Well, you only gave us two options, none of which apply in my case.

I'm an agnostic person, which means, more or less, that I am unwilling to commit to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a deity of any kind.
This belief comes from the simple fact that neither Men nor science can prove or refute the existance of a deity.



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Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 19:26
small correction: the movie is called "PI", not "PIE"
and i didnt mean theres in ONE true god....or religion.
i mean, that u can believe in what u want, i dont think any religion or god is wrong and that there is only one energy you can belive in....the world wasnt made by anyone, but you can think about anyone who created it....whoever you want. cheers
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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 22:20
I did my search on Kabbalah and found lots of weird stuff, which I will not comment here because I'm afraid of disrespecting the ones who believe in it...

I don't think atheists are insecure, I think it's just the opposite. I just don't believe in God or anything else because I can't detect it, my senses can't detect it, it just not interfere in my life, it makes no difference at all. And I don't like illusions (I know everyone have it's illusions, maybe don't believe in God is one of mine, but what can I do???)

Some people trust in some religious creed believing in what the OTHER PEOPLE said...
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Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 23:23
a true and sad fact napoleao .

and insecure was the wrong word. sorry for that, didnt want you to call that......i wanted to say that the atheists heard of (members of atheistic association or something like this in switzerland) acted like enemies of religion and very disrespectful as well. but thats aint your thing, is it ???
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Posted : Apr 27, 2004 01:16
No. My thing is to find my own way and just let others be the way they want.

What the meaning of a atheistic association anyway? I can't understand it... For me is as meaningless as an "Anti-Santa Claus Association".
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