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orik
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Posted : Sep 17, 2004 16:47
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well...i was wondering...
lots of the people making the music today use
cracked software vsts,pluggins...
when you get to a time when you think
you should release what youve made,
isnt there a problem releasing tracks
which were made with cracked software...
whats the whole catch here...? |
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Zoolog
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Posted : Sep 17, 2004 18:27
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Errr i guess i dont really see where you are getting at, how should anyone figure out how a sound was generated or which sequenser was used (unless it was fruity).....
I guess sombody has talented ears !
The two most common things that ppl. will recognize are samples that have been used (mainly in movies) before and the ever killing Acces Virus Synth (which was originally only produced as hardware).
No one unless they get inside your studio and examines your computer would be able to determine whether or not you use illegal software.
If somebody, like a software producer, claimed a fee due to abuse of hes/hers program, it would most likely be an international affair, (unless the programmer and the artist lives in the same country) which would cost alot of money!
In my oppinion the Psy we listen to today would be rather dull, if it wasnt for the pirates. I know of so many producers that only use hardware and illegal software, and i guess thats how it should be.
Many of the developers take prices for their products, that are way higher than reasonable (this could of course be a result of all the pirates, but then again pirates are also partially the result of high prices).
I will not feel sorry for the software developers, when my first track hits the streets, that's for sure (but maybe i will send them a gratefull thought)...
If i had shit loads of money they would go to:
Ohmforce, Izotope and Audionerdz!
-Should i give my money to Microsoft when i make my first track, because it was their software that made anything possible for me in the first place! I dont believe i should give anything to Gates, it should be the other way around....
If you read this Bill Gates, please send me a pm =) |
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Sektor666
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Posted : Sep 17, 2004 19:44
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Bill Gaytes eating cake right now so he can't answer you ......the one that someone throw on him
no one can check if you use cracked software unless you connected to internet with same Pc but eventhough if you are , VST companies are so poor , so they can't afford to make trackers like Microsoft ......
i think cracked software , illegal music and other piracy things are matter of personal behavior and selfrespect than checks .... |
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Hayez
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Posted : Sep 17, 2004 21:04
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Knowing those people who work for vst companies from inside, I can say how poor they are.
Riding a bike to work, sometimes not eating for few days.  The only thing that keeps them going is to know that people are making music (even if it's cracked).
If you are making money out of selling your music then buy the damn software, otherwise don't be suprised that your tracks are free all over.
 "a new art came into my mind which only you can create, the Art of Noises, the logical consequence of your marvelous innovations." Russolo, 1913 |
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ZilDoggo
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Posted : Sep 17, 2004 23:07
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"i guess i dont really see where you are getting at"
eeh, there are ways to inject information into the output ., and noone on earth is going to hear it.,
you will only find it with special statistical analisys..,
i'm not saying they do it, just that it's possible.,
you could embed a serial number into the output of a sequencer and you could later recognise this with the right tool and noone would know this..,
anyway,
greets
aka., |
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orange
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Posted : Sep 17, 2004 23:33
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On 2004-09-17 18:27, Zoolog wrote:
Errr i guess i dont really see where you are getting at, how should anyone figure out how a sound was generated or which sequenser was used (unless it was fruity).....
how you can understand whats made on fruity ????
how can you do that?
but i think most of the tracks made today have at least 1 cracked software in them
and to be honnest i think the are many good thinks with cracked soft cos they give the apportunity to many people with not full pockets to make quality music to
but if they eventualy make money from it i hope and think the best is to bie what they use its the right think to do cos people have spend lots of time and effort to make them
orange
http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic |
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labyrinth
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Posted : Sep 18, 2004 00:39
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If you find something that you like and it is valuable to you then you should buy it, it is a matter of respect. The software developers making these tools are just as talented and creative as the artists that use them. As with anything in life, The more you put into something the more you will get out of it. |
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Sektor666
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Posted : Sep 18, 2004 00:50
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Orange leave him alone ..... you can't heal or change this virus ... unless you have sound design like i do in FL to proove opposite to them ..... |
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timsensient
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Posted : Sep 18, 2004 02:24
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I remember hearing something about how spectrasonics put a very high ptiched frequency spike in the stylus loops so they can do a spectrum anlysis of a track and if they see the spike in there it is cracked version being used for the track (i think maybe registering it takes away the spike)...im not %100 sure this is true but kinda interesting...
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Mike A
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Posted : Sep 18, 2004 03:34
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And the moment you do some manipulating with the loops that spike is gone. What's the point in that?
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ketzah
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Posted : Sep 18, 2004 22:07
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I hope opensource will make people to be good musicians because of their imagination, and not because of the budget topic... Ups, I send it again... sorry |
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Elad
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Posted : Sep 20, 2004 03:51
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zooter
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Posted : Sep 20, 2004 10:59
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my opinion...use cracked software as long as you don't make money from ur tracks...once u start making money, give something back..."not to the community, but to the world in general"
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psypox
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Posted : Sep 20, 2004 13:22
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On 2004-09-18 02:24, timsensient wrote:
I remember hearing something about how spectrasonics put a very high ptiched frequency spike in the stylus loops so they can do a spectrum anlysis of a track and if they see the spike in there it is cracked version being used for the track (i think maybe registering it takes away the spike)...im not %100 sure this is true but kinda interesting...
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indeed!
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EYB
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Posted : Sep 20, 2004 13:29
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On 2004-09-20 13:22, psypox wrote:
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On 2004-09-18 02:24, timsensient wrote:
I remember hearing something about how spectrasonics put a very high ptiched frequency spike in the stylus loops so they can do a spectrum anlysis of a track and if they see the spike in there it is cracked version being used for the track (i think maybe registering it takes away the spike)...im not %100 sure this is true but kinda interesting...
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indeed!
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Maybe but u can buy it and don't need to register, u also can buy it used. And they would need people that spend all their working time to listen to music and to analyse it, so it would be very expensive for them. I think it is only said by them to make people afraid of using a stolen spectrasonic product.
Peace
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