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___Auspexx
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Posted : Jun 10, 2001 14:26:00
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This probably should have gone into the OffTopic section, but it's gone now...
I want to make a point about the attitude of Israeli trance people - producers, promoters or DJs towards other people in the scene. Now, I remember seeing the scene in Europe where labels help other labels, promoters of one party support and assist in another organization's party, and the general feeling that everybody's in this together, that if we won't support ourselves nobody will do it for us.
I've seen party and record labels quarrel and trip each other over stupid matters, instead of support and encourage.
Don't people understand that if someone sells good (whether its an album, compilation or party tickets), it means that the scene gets stronger, and that there will be more sales for everybody. One person's success doesn't mean less work for the rest but more work, sine if one succeeds it means that more people like this scene and share it (by going more to parties, buying more albums etc').
I know, believe me, I see it in our own label and the other labels here in Israel - everybody want's to be the main power in the scene and kick the rest aside, instead of joining hands and strength and advancing this beautiful thing ahead.
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___sAnDmAn
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Posted : Jun 10, 2001 14:41:43
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hi Auspexx , whats up ?
did you came from europe/indea/moon .. . .
tha atmosphir you discribes ...simply wont happen here !! its not the mentality
of our small nation (sadly but true)
there is no support to each other in our small scene (?) ,or for that matter in other comunication : ) cd pirats ,violance , politics (oops) etc, bla bla
i admit that m gultiy also (a bit). . .what to do . . .
never was ! never will !
any solution man ?
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___DJ_Leo
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Posted : Jun 10, 2001 15:11:01
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There's Nothing Special To Do , As You Know Those That Pulling The Strings, We Cant Do Nothing To Say To Those Who Spent Half Of Their Lifes Into Trance And The Scene And Like An Animal Marking His Teritory And Afraid Of Others That Want To Mark The Same Teritory .
That How Israelis Behaving , Nothing To Do Just Do What You Think Is Right. |
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___tomeron
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Posted : Jun 11, 2001 15:13:21
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strong words ,tal. (what's up my friend...)
it's important to understand that we're in it together , but i can also say that compare to house scene or disco (boogie ben & alike...)
trance ppl do help one another...espacialy artists
& dj's ,but like everything in life there's always the other side of the coin.... that is not so nice....
had both of them so far & i guess i will get some more in the future...
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___Black-Eyed-Wolf
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Posted : Jun 11, 2001 19:48:58
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Tal where are taking this from ? i mean who triped who ? when did these things happen ? |
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___tomeron
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Posted : Jun 12, 2001 11:24:05
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does it matter ?
the names of the ppl involved will make it more right?
the names arent necassery , it's gossip......
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___Auspexx
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Posted : Jun 12, 2001 11:55:55
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Tomer's right, and besides, it's not specificaly me but mostly people around me. I don't get into these situationsimply because I'm less involved in the scene.
This topic is about watching the scene from 'outside', seeing people/organizations from other places and comparing it to us.
Cum'on, we all know what this thread is about, and I haven't said that something should or could be done. That's why I post replies in this forum and not become a trance activist or somthin' hihihi.
Seriously - in every place there are confrontations, fights or even backstabing. The thing is that here I can see it happening more (maybe it's because I'm in USTA?!) |
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___tomeron
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Posted : Jun 12, 2001 12:08:38
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i think tal it's maybe because u'r in israel...
& nowdays espacialy the whole situation makes ppl less tolerant ,i'm not saying that the situation is new ,but ppl party less then last summer buy cd's less than last year & as much as the cake is smaller the fights & all the dirty is bigger...
anyway that's my opinion |
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___Black-Eyed-Wolf
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Posted : Jun 12, 2001 12:55:05
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i never asked for names... i dont really care its just that from what i see and know there is a lot of coporation going on between trance "teams"... am i wrong ? |
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___tomeron
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Posted : Jun 12, 2001 14:23:56
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not more than other scene's & from what i know even less.
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___Protoss
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Posted : Jun 13, 2001 16:05:00
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Well, it's fucking human nature and some people don't even think that they can change it in theirselves... We have some shit here too, and Tal r u sure that almost everywhere it is not the same?
Sad but true... everyone has this damn competition spirit, and when you start doing something good - u get criticized, because they think you are tring to take someones bread away. This is stupid. |
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___yuli
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Posted : Jun 13, 2001 17:00:43
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If not the music I would long time ago gone fishing |
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___Protoss
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Posted : Jun 13, 2001 17:47:21
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Yuli I second your words...
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GOD IS LOVE
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___sAnDmAn
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Posted : Jun 14, 2001 03:25:52
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does the "yarkon" river still with watter ? ; )
bom yuli !! i have 2 fishing sticks !! lets go fishing
it killer with a small "atala" cher and 6pack :)
what ya say ?
izik
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___tomeron
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Posted : Jun 14, 2001 10:07:50
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feeled thier mouths with water...
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