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Spindrift
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Posted : Oct 11, 2004 18:48
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Hi,
I would really like to now what you guys think is really well mastered CD's.
Especially in the area of hard night music, where i find that many times the mastering is not top notch.
It would be especially good with compilations, where you really feel the loudness and frequency balance is perfectly matching in the different tracks.
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 11, 2004 18:56
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Best mixed track is Midi Miliz - Phenomena imho.
da best albums
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X-Dream - Irritant
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Ticon - Rewind
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Haldolium - Vanity
Compilation pretty bad mixed and mastered in most of cases in material i listen to so can't help . |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Oct 11, 2004 19:29
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Haven't actually listened to irritant, but that one i will check.
Ticon and Halodium is to minimal to be a good reference for what I'm doing....but maybe usefull for someone else.
Keep em coming...
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Hayez
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Posted : Oct 11, 2004 19:38
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I use IM -Classical Mushroom, but it's not because I want to sound like them, it's because I know exactly how it should sound anywhere and because of the great production they have.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 11, 2004 20:54
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Pavel
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Posted : Oct 11, 2004 21:03
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On 2004-10-11 20:54, Colin OOOD wrote:
I use tracks by Sub 6 and Electric Universe, although Hujaboy sent me one of his latest tunes and it's everything I want in a mix.
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Good picks Colin. I'd add Younger Brother's album cause it contains quite busy yet very clean tracks. Especiall "Good and Evil" and "Scanner" tunes
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Mike A
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Posted : Oct 11, 2004 21:10
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But we are not mastering engineers, are we?
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Spindrift
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Posted : Oct 11, 2004 23:06
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Colin is, according to himself anyway 
I trust the ppl in this forum more on what is a good trance master than I would a pop or rock engineer.
And maybe very few doing trance mastering is actually qualifying to be mastering engineers.
Most is really artists having stabs at mastering as a side business.
And why not....good mastering engineers is extremly expensive....and a bad rock engineer will not do a great job, at least not what I heard.
And for sure it's good to have good reference material, wheather you are mastering or not?
Thanks for your tip's guy's...getting a small list together of stuff to check out
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Oct 11, 2004 23:17
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Twisted System - The Dealers
VA - Penguin Rebellion
VA - Urantia Rising
VA - There Is No Tomorrow....
Also i think Jirah and Cpu have some real nice sound pictures.... the list could be long 
I really dont have a clue about mastering, but these are some nice night time albums nonetheless... though Urantia Rising might work best in the early hours....
listen for your self and see....
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dNETv2
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Posted : Oct 11, 2004 23:42
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I've done a fair bit of mastering in my days... and I have come to the conclusion that it is 'pretty' easy to master a track if the producer has experience in mixing and have put in the time to clean up the essentials before handing it over.
A lot of psy producers these days are very young and forget the importants of doing basic mixing when writting there tunes. Unexperienced artists will mixdown their EQ, mixdown reverb, etc... Which is very very hard to fix for a mastering engineer.
If you want to compare it with rock / pop music you must think of the pre production and process of recording. These guys record on multi-million dollar mixing boards, down to 2-Inch tape,then 'ussually' into protools, and then back to the million dollar mixing board. They have tracking engineers, who do VERY basic volume and EQ staging, then they pass it to a mix engineer, and finally the post production/mastering studio. It's a huge and expensive process.
My conclusion many of todays artists aren't experienced enough to mix themselves, even though they do. When they pass down the final stereo mix to the record label... The mastering engineer must compensate for all the flaws in that artists production. That ussually doesn't go that smooth and causes for overall mix to be more worse than it could be.
There are still some great and knowledgable acts out there doing great stuff... Don't get me wrong. I just hear very unpolished albums spilling over the higher production artists.
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 00:17
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dNETv2 i agree! |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 00:33
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On 2004-10-11 23:06, Spindrift wrote:
Colin is, according to himself anyway
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Well, I wouldn't call myself a 'mastering engineer', I don't have that training... I just enjoy making music sound as good as I can, and am willing to do the same for other people's music as I do for my own (on a very reasonable try-before-buy basis!)
Thanks for the opportunity for the plug, Spindrift, I always find it difficult to advertise my services here without feeling like I'm being big-headed
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 04:08
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Space Buda
Jirah (i'm not the biggest fan of the album but the quality is just amazing!!!)
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Kitnam
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 10:17
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The best mastering is holded by Spiritzone-Recordings since years. Also the Element-Studio Mastering ( this means not the Element-Production)is superb, but I do not know about their activities of today. Anyway, you realy can trust any release from Spiritzone to have a top notch mastering on it. |
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UIU
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 18:56
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You guyz also forgot Deedrah. Both albums. |
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