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recording vocals with limiter in cubase sl 3?
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martyn
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Posted : Apr 13, 2006 14:45
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i want to record vocals in cubase sl 3. the vocals will vary extremely in their dynamics and to avoid clipping i want to insert a limiter before the signal is recorded. this way the signal will be reduced to 0 dB maximum and no clipping will occur. in cubase sx it's no problem, here one can insert a limiter in the "input-channel" (sorry, i don't know the exact term in english). unfortunately in sl i don't have access to the input-channel. is there a trick to insert a limiter somewhere in the signal-chain, eg. by routing the vocal channel with an inserted limiter to another audiochannel and recording on the latter?
thanx in advance,
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 13, 2006 15:00
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Nope, better record the vocals clean or with a slight compression. If you want to avoid clippin try to keep the microphone far from the source. It's better to record a weaker signal than a clipped one. If you record in 24bit you can record even at -15dB max. The signal will still has plenty of headroom.
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martyn
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Posted : Apr 13, 2006 15:10
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thanx for your answer!
so you mean it's better to record the vocals at -15dB max and then push the level up (respectively normalize it) to get it loud enough? but won't that lead to audible noise in the vocal-track later if the recorded signal is that weak? and i don't quite understand why this method should be better than using a limiter?
btw. the problem i mentioned in the starting post applies for compressors and any other plugin as well. i don't know if it's possible to pass a signal through a plugin before recording it in sl3.
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e-motion
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Posted : Apr 13, 2006 15:13
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try recording it in Sound Forge and import it in cubase. pretty useless thing having an input channel without inserts :S |
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 13, 2006 15:25
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Yes Martyn, but not with the normalize option on Cubase, but better with the fader or with Compressor. I usually leave my mixes overall level at -15dB and then when i master it i just solve the level issue. This way if you have sudden peaks in one of the channels they won't distort. Nothing is as nasty as digital distortion on Cubase.
The above mentioned applies only to acoustical recordings. When i mess with VST's only i usually don't mind cranking up the volume.
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orange
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Posted : Apr 13, 2006 15:29
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using a limiter when recording vocals(or any signal) isnt the best thing to do !
better is to keep the volumes low so it want clip the signal and then apply compression to rise the volume up!
limiters in excessive clipping signals cause distortion to the recorded file and this cant be removed in any way later but a low level file can easely be pumped up with no noticeable noise(exept if lots of outside noises or very bad mic/preamp combo adding lots of noise)
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martyn
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Posted : Apr 13, 2006 15:39
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ok, thanx for your answers! than i'll try the "pure" method to record the vocals without any plugins at low level and raise the level later with a compressor and/ or the fader.
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 13, 2006 15:40
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Good luck!
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