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Reason 3.0 Not good for producing GOA TRANCE?
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FaceHead
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Posted : Oct 4, 2006 17:04
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my official stance is that reason is good for some filler like mentioned it is quick and ive gotten some sounds out of it that were suprising up untill recently everything was reason for me except the kick n bass well and some vsts and sample sin cubase but not much and I tell everyone trying to make professional music with reason to get even a cheap hardware synth and just listen to the difference in the waves reason is just lacking some power for some reason. yes you could spend a lifetime trying to get reason to make certain sounds some things it will never do as good any other option but then there is the bonus of being able to conjur up some wierdness in a matter of seconds so if you wanna use reason I say use the redrum and the sampler and maybe the synths but use them sparsely and find a program to rewire it through that you like because it will open the doors for you to explore sound more. as for 4.0 ill be really interested to see what they do. anyone know any real news on 4.0?
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the daleks
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Posted : Oct 5, 2006 03:41
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FaceHead
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Posted : Oct 5, 2006 05:43
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ya im known for it in these parts plus I realized i already posted on this topic with almost the same words
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Kane
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Posted : Oct 6, 2006 20:40
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Reason 3 isn't good for producing anything. |
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Pythagoraz
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Posted : Oct 7, 2006 01:39
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On 2006-10-05 05:43, FaceHead wrote:
ya im known for it in these parts plus I realized i already posted on this topic with almost the same words
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lol
anyway... reason any good? I don't care it is too damn ugly to even open up imo. I love my hardware knobs and SX performance issues and I'm not going back to Reason ever... -I mean -it looks like a computergame version of E-jay or something... 
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l337
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Posted : Oct 7, 2006 19:55
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On 2006-10-06 20:40, qane wrote:
Reason 3 isn't good for producing anything.
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if you cant produce anything decent on reason, you have shit skills....
it takes some skill to make good sounding stuff in reason, but if i had to give you a blind test of reason vs cubase or whatever, you wouldnt have a clue...
its up to who is using the program, i have heard some seriously pro stuff coming out of reason, and often use it, especially for the Maelstrom with 303 styled sounds...
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Airi
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Posted : Oct 8, 2006 00:33
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agree |
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Kane
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 04:04
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On 2006-10-07 19:55, l337 wrote:
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On 2006-10-06 20:40, qane wrote:
Reason 3 isn't good for producing anything.
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if you cant produce anything decent on reason, you have shit skills....
it takes some skill to make good sounding stuff in reason, but if i had to give you a blind test of reason vs cubase or whatever, you wouldnt have a clue...
its up to who is using the program, i have heard some seriously pro stuff coming out of reason, and often use it, especially for the Maelstrom with 303 styled sounds...
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What I can produce in reason has nothing to do with what software i prefer to use. I used nothing BUT reason for 5 months getting started, so yes i know my way around the software and I don't like it compared to using Cubase or Acid with samples and VSTi's along with hard synths. I use Reason frequently for it's sounds, but I don't like the design and operation of the program itself, specifically its sequencer setup. I find it easier to take sounds exported from Reason and sequence them in something else.
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I mean -it looks like a computergame version of E-jay or something...
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agreed..
Anyway, I personally don't like reason at all. If it works for you and gets the job done as well as possible for YOUR skill, go ahead. I prefer my envelopes and audio tracks. |
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l337
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 14:25
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On 2006-10-06 20:40, qane wrote:
Reason 3 isn't good for producing anything.
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What I can produce in reason has nothing to do with what software i prefer to use. I used nothing BUT reason for 5 months getting started, so yes i know my way around the software and I don't like it compared to using Cubase or Acid with samples and VSTi's along with hard synths. I use Reason frequently for it's sounds, but I don't like the design and operation of the program itself, specifically its sequencer setup. I find it easier to take sounds exported from Reason and sequence them in something else.
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I mean -it looks like a computergame version of E-jay or something...
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agreed..
Anyway, I personally don't like reason at all. If it works for you and gets the job done as well as possible for YOUR skill, go ahead. I prefer my envelopes and audio tracks.
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Yeah...i use Cubase...and i sometimes export reason sounds...however i learnt on Reason and it taught me shitloads...
however the only thin i was saying is ...its retarded of you to make sweeping statements lie...."Reason isnt good for producing anything"
thats all i was correcting you over... |
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Kane
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Posted : Oct 10, 2006 22:00
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imo**, reason isn't good for producing anything.. |
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Posted : Oct 11, 2006 18:05
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I think Reason is a fantastic program in terms of its modular design and creatve possibility!
But with no effort put into the program, yes it DOES sound weak (especially if you are lazy and only use the standard patches), but if you are truly creative with it then it can be up there with the best of of the music production greats.
Yes I find audio waveforms much more comforting than MIDI ever will be, and thats why Reason should be used in a good ReWire host. I personally use it as a massive modular plugin for Cubase SX, as most of you would.
I think alot of people who don't like Reason are not using it correctly, and also quite possibly, they have a nice Access Virus Ti sitting beside them with increadible default patches that have had ALOT of sound design and effects work put into them by professionals. Thats why a Virus sounds so amazing and has such a great synth engine.
I'm not suggesting that Reason is in the same synthesis field as a Virus or anything, but alot of people diss Reason before they get the chance to get deep with it.
That being said, there ARE much better tools than Reason for producing Psytrance! And I will always love a good hardware synth more than any software crap lol! I just think it is a shame that alot of people hate Reason. But each unto their own! 
It all comes down to how and why you write your music, and not "with what".
Peace out my psy-loving friends!
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psybratt
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Posted : Oct 11, 2006 20:43
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I will stand by Reason anyday. I find Cubase too geeky looking. Reason makes a lot more sense to me personally. Reason also has one of the most easiest/convinient sequencers that I have ever come across.
I can't wait to do the split screen on Reason. The hardware rack on one screen and the sequencer on the other screen. Am so excited.
And, I can re-wire Reason to Acid Pro/Sonar and still get to play with the VSTs... muwaahahaaha ...
but I do like the point made by psyfex.. "It all comes down to how and why you write your music, and not "with what". " .. totally agree with you on that .. 
if you want to hear what reason can sound like .. hit me up .. i might send you a demo ..
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FaceHead
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Posted : Oct 11, 2006 21:37
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I think if you are trying to make a typical lead reason is weak but some of the craziest leads ive made have been on the subtractor im gonna post them just to prove that its not the best but its also not worthless. gimme a day or 2. ill put up a link.
and yes I will buy 4.0 regardless. with such easy automation and low cpu usage its the most fun out of any music program ive used not the best but the funnest.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 12, 2006 02:35
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Get-a-fix
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