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Karash
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Posted : Jul 25, 2006 20:55
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It's true that Ozone 3 is real cool to upgrade the track. But there are another solution like to use the plug in "wave" like C4 and L2. When your track is finished, you open it in cubase and you multiply in four audio channel. In each channel you put a C4 and L2. On the first C4 you just keep the bass, the second low medium, the third the medium and the last one the high (on C4 you can cut each frequencies). Then with the threshold of the L2 you will be able to upgrade each part of the frequencies very easily. Just have a try, it is just to practise. But if you really want to have something pure and powerful it's to make lots of tracks, and also to have good monitor.. |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Jul 25, 2006 21:34
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? is this the same as using a C4 and a L3 Multimaximizer with the same crossovers ?
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
Atma
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 00:26
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Well i prefer to make a better mix of the track than to use a multiband compressor..
Sometimes the multiband compressors can cut out some of the good frequences, or it can bring in front some unwanted freqs.
So the best way is to do this job from the mix, not with multiband compressors.
It's true, that sometimes when you have to master a compilatiom with many tracks from diffrent artists and all you have is a simple wav file, than multiband comp. is the best and easy way to do it.
But if you have to master an complete album..and you have the project files, it's better not to use multiband comp. but, to do a better mix !
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 10:25
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Thanx Atma, some great advice there. I was wondering though, you CAN use a bit of bus-compression to make elements i the mix gel together, right ? (in the case of home-mastering).
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 11:21
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Well i use mosltly the Psp WintageWarmer to make the ellements mix together but with a very light settings...
I like the first preset of the PSP WintageWarmer(Mastering First Aid) but i set the "adjust" knob from Low and High to zero.
So i use only the "Drive" to add a little distortion and colour to the track.
I use very light settings to all of the plugins on the mastering chanell. For stereoimager, i never set "spread" higher than 130 %, and for Eq, i never cut or add more than 1 db.
Anyway, my master chain looks like this:
Psp WintageWarmer
Waves Stereo Imager
Sonic Foundry TrackEq
Waves L1 Ultramaximizer
Boom !
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shachar
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 11:59
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PSP vintage warmer on master channel?!!
did it one time and didnt do it again for a reason...
i guess everyone have their own taste but in my opinion vintage warmer its a good tool for singel track but for the master channel it creates a lot of mess!
karash - about C4 : why open 4 channels? the c4 have crossovers to mix the bands toghether. using 4 channels will enhance some of the frequiencies more than others.
Im not an expert on mastering issue but this is my way of mastering: EQ, Compresor (low ratio), limiter.
about stereoimager i never got good reasult , maybe im using the wrong one but i think the ozone imager is good because you can spread high frequeincies more and leave the low band centerd.
anyway i advise to work on every singel channel to build a nice and open stereo image.
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
Atma
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 12:20
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Well if the psp Vintage Warmer creates a mess in the track and steroimager does the same, well then for sure the problem is in the mix. Or maybe the settings you used on stereoimager or PSP was wrong.
but i am sure, the guy who will make the finnal mastering of your tracks will use them, or simmilar plugins or gear for sure 
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e-motion
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 14:46
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Waves Stereo Images is NOT to be used in the mastering chain, only multiband imagers can be used since low frequencys must be mono. And by the way even multiband's shouldn't be used in the mastering when you can touch the mix (i mean, only use it if you're mastering a single wav file). Stereo imaging in the master is half-way for phase cancelations, have you checked your mixes in mono?
and the guy who makes the final masterings uses hardware, not plugins
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Andreh
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 14:52
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Jikkenteki
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 16:08
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faxinadu
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 16:09
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
Atma
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 16:14
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On 2006-07-26 14:46, e-motion wrote:
Waves Stereo Images is NOT to be used in the mastering chain, only multiband imagers can be used since low frequencys must be mono. And by the way even multiband's shouldn't be used in the mastering when you can touch the mix (i mean, only use it if you're mastering a single wav file). Stereo imaging in the master is half-way for phase cancelations, have you checked your mixes in mono?
and the guy who makes the final masterings uses hardware, not plugins
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Sorry but I use WavesStereoImager as a
stero imager only (i mean it enhance only the stero elements of the track - mono freqs will remain mono, only panned instruments are touched) not as a stereo enhancer, wich is tottaly diffrent thing.
As stereo enhancer i use Psp Stereo Enhancer and of course, i use it in the track on diffrent channels.
And btw...most of the Cd's mastered from the market are digitaly mastered using plugins not gear...depends of the sound engineer.
I personaly have a full mastering rack (gear of course) but i haven't use it in the last 2 years.
Anyway, it looks nice in the studio.. peoples are impressed when they see lots of knobs and cables...lol
Same thing happens with most of the mastering studios today..u pay lot of money for a mastering made with cracked plugins.
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Andreh
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 16:16
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@ Jikkenteki, i agree with you, but i think LinMB is a "generic" tool for mastering. Also i use this tool to master Punk-Rock songs too... So i think it can be perfect for any kind/style of music. 
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piXan
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 07:48
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piko_bianko
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 09:37
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Same thing happens with most of the mastering studios today..u pay lot of money for a mastering made with cracked plugins.
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haha, how cruel!
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so real, though!
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