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FaceHead
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Posted : Oct 13, 2006 17:45
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ive been looking to get hardware for bass here are my choices
Mam mb 33 mkii (rack)
MAM Freebass 383 (rack)
Novation BassStation (rack)
Next SuperBass 4.4 (rack)
Roland SH-101(a little outta my price range, but do-able)
I just wanna know if anyone has any experience with these or if they know artists that use any of them.
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undertones
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Posted : Oct 13, 2006 18:46
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bass station is all right, you canget a variety of distubing sounds...i would recommend the 101 for the quality of the sound output, puts everything else to shame. |
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dtd
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Posted : Oct 13, 2006 20:34
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keep in mind that free running oscillators can get nasty when trying to play fast (16ths) basslines. (of course, ignore this comment if you want to use it for other purposes  )
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Surrender
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Posted : Oct 13, 2006 20:56
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On 2006-10-13 17:45, FaceHead wrote:
Roland SH-101(a little outta my price range, but do-able)
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good one indeed, not sure u absolutely need it, but has many function beyond making basslines.
@dtd: u could always export any sample of bass for steadyness and resample it into a sampler or just use the exported audio at various volumes to act as the midi velocities.
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FaceHead
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Posted : Oct 13, 2006 21:01
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@dtd which ones have the free running oscillators??
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dtd
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Posted : Oct 13, 2006 21:17
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FaceHead: in digital synthesis, the oscillators (be they discretely computed in real time or from a wavetable) can be 'let loose' sample accurate just when the note event arrives, in exact the same way every time (phase position). in analog synthesis, the oscillator is a (tuned) electrical circuit which will not necessarily be in the same phase everytime you start a note. (you can digitally simulate this effect on the access virus synths for example.). this can (but not necessarily must of course) result in _small_ changes of the perceived sound (which normally adds 'liveness' to any patch you make, thus, this is desired), in some cases it can be not so desired when making fast 16ths basslines, since consecutive same notes can sound slightly different. (of course it depends on your needs if this is any problem at all )
greetings,
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FaceHead
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Posted : Oct 13, 2006 21:25
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so you are saying for youre typical psy bass digital will get you the same sound everytime?
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orange
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Posted : Oct 14, 2006 03:02
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On 2006-10-13 21:25, FaceHead wrote:
so you are saying for youre typical psy bass digital will get you the same sound everytime?
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yes! exept if done in perpose! but not that usualy common!
im for the sh-101 its a beast but beware it has all the original roland electronics inside its a kinda oldish synth so difficult to find spare parts and if it was broken and fixed with a placebo part (specialy filters and oscs) it maybe not sound the same as the original!
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kreeper_6
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Posted : Oct 14, 2006 09:48
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don't forget about the mc-202. very closley related and a lot cheaper than the sh-101.
also i bought a mc-202 last year on ebay and it was MINT!
the guy bought it in 81' and had it in his closet ever since! I wear white gloves when I break it out! it even smells new..I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted : Oct 14, 2006 10:00
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I got an MB 33 (not the MK II version) and I'm quite happy to use it when it comes to old-school slower goa-trance basslines, where you may be looking for the "liveness" effect some of the other users have explained above. The sound of the MB 33 is really neat in a dirty, analog way, but what I lack is an ADSR. Can't remember if the MK II have one, I think they only added some distorsion fx onboard and maybe a waveform or so?
Whatever they say though, it looks really nice in the bedroom studio.  If I had the money, I'd go for an SH-101. Not just for the bass sounds, but, it can create some really wild and neat effects, too.
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Elad
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Posted : Oct 14, 2006 14:10
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Erez_b
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Posted : Oct 14, 2006 20:00
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I still ensist that VSTi nowdays are super sound providers , why investing that kind of money |
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FaceHead
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Posted : Oct 15, 2006 20:05
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"no tb-303-" ..........you kno wwhere I can get a working one for under 400$
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@erez the mam options are only around 200$ tops Id feel better about paying that much for something physical than a plugin. I agree there they are but just noticing the difference in quality between my nord2 and virus a put up against any plugins I wanted to see if hardware bass would stand out that much more.
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FaceHead
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Posted : Oct 15, 2006 20:11
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any good experieces with hardware bass. im trying to create a really full almost chunky bassline?
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Psyjinx
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Posted : Oct 16, 2006 12:59
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If you get a SH 101 you will also need to get a midi/cv converter which will add considerably to the price. I got an SH 101 in mint condition for 150 pounds in Japan... not much help that though... interestingly enough, the second hand shop I bought it in was called Hard Off |
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