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RBASS MAXXBASS

e-motion
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 16:22
i don't like Rbass... it's too strong, but maxxbass is good, more like a balancer than a booster. and i repeat... don't overdue it. about not using it, i think it depends on the type of bass you want and the synth you use. tritium per example is too weak imho
0v3rd0s3d
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 16:47
eheh it's a matter of taste, it depends on the bass u want to do, those two plugins are for different purposes (or whatever it is written) ^^ imo eheh

tritium is weak, but if u boost the right freqs, you can sound it as much power as any other bass synth, but for me thats one of the hardest bass synths to get sound good... very digital and weird lol :s           http://myspace.com/overthedose
Elad
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 17:08
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On 2006-03-13 16:08, PoM wrote:
if i m right maxbass is a plug to emulate bass on small speakers , not really what we need



hmm.. thats true.. but may be thats whats good in this ? that now if someone listen with small speaker it wont shake it too much ?

anyhow its nice pluginz but i rather eq

and anywayz if used Rbass its also with -9 up to -12 db so it effects very "tenderly"
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Mike A
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 17:16
I only use RBass with a very small gain, just to give the small "deep" sound to the bass, and of course I eq it to fix whatever wrong it made
sonik_akb


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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 17:20
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On 2006-03-13 16:08, PoM wrote:
if i m right maxbass is a plug to emulate bass on small speakers , not really what we need ,but if it sounds good ...



You are right, it's a excellent tool for producing remixes that will be played on home or car (the Maxx emulates those freq. found on club speakers on small ones, giving the sub-bass sensation to the listener). If you produce a club remix, forget this tool, it's better to use one another tool, something that really emphasizes the bass sound (e.g. BBE Sonic plug-in).
14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 17:34
I never use maximisers and never boost the bass. I simply program the synth to get the sound I want, naturaly without fuss.
If you want more bass, add an oscillator an octave lower and use the synth's mixer to control the amount of low end you want. If you want more mids, open the filter/set a higher envelope modulation on the filter. Just play around till you get it right.
The way you mix the bass with the kick and the tune, is as important as getting the bass patch right in the place.
By the way, a nice bass synth does not maximisers (i.e. sh-101)
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cavedave
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 18:58
Any of these boosters from any company imo is not for music. It ruins the sound.

iMO <----

I used to insert such sheit on every track i made, and when played on a party.. it was broken,almost only bass .


but this also relates to my mixingskills... I mean probably you can make something OOUUMMPH-ier out of it =) but not me.           rulla runt bland mjuka kuddar
Freeflow
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 20:10
troglodyte - by mixing the dry sound and the boosted sound you can get better results.

Imo the boosted should be very very low so it acts like a another component, almost like e-tard says with adding a sine osc a octave lower, or what ever waveform it should have...

then the orginal can play ontop of that, and really mean the boosted part to be very subtle..
it can make a baseline or other element that lacks some lowend sit very tight..

but often i find that bass boosters ruins the sound, some musically EQ that many mixers have will often do a better job...

but i think keyword for these bass maximisers is subtle, and the most important is to find the right frequency to boost with it..

like i say i dont dismiss them completely, but i never use them as first solution... and i dont only try them on baselines...
try them on percs, like congas and various hand drums...
0v3rd0s3d
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 20:30
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but i think keyword for these bass maximisers is subtle, and the most important is to find the right frequency to boost with it..




exactly, if EQ was the only solution, what's the meaning of these plugins? they exist for some reason but, yes, thats a question of taste and mixing skills

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sy000321
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 20:50

i think they exist mostly for multi-media production... i think... might be wrong           roll a joint or STFU :)
0v3rd0s3d
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 21:24
maybe u are right and i'm a bear lol

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sy000321
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 13:14

it's the point of it... making bass audible in multi-media speackers

and other plugs like xhum and xnoise (??) are usefull to restore sampled wavs.

i know some people use the x-hum in the bass line, but... let's face it... there are better ways to do it           roll a joint or STFU :)
Freeflow
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 15:53
@ sy000321 -
"let's face it" there are many ways of doing it
sy000321
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 16:48
yeah, you're right about that           roll a joint or STFU :)
Spindrift
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 23:12
Maxxbass can in my experience be useful complement to an EQ when mastering to fix tracks which have not very good bass/kick...despite that it's primary purpose is to make bass punchy an small speakers.

But during production I never found it useful.
If your bass need that kind of treatment you probably best off looking for a more suitable bass synth.

Having said that I hadly ever find the need for neither EQ or compression for my basses since I have a couple of bass synths that I think sound right as they are without treatment.
If thats not the case I'm sure the maxxbass can be useful alternative to only EQ'ing in some cases.

The RBass have I never got any good results with....it just doesn't seem suited to enhancing electronic basses in my experience and make them far to clumpsy sounding.
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