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questions, balance, spectral analysis , mixing

MuckyPuh
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 11, 2012 13:48:55

Hey there °

recently i have been playing my tracks in traktor and i noticed that in the spectral wave view they are mostly red all the time... normal tracks are just red when there is just kick and bass playing - and as soon as more elements come in the colors become more light. My mixing was also not good balanced and kick and bass where way to loud compared to the rest so i put down the volume of kick/bass a bit but its still quite red ..

have a look:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zcaeyltxf6msr7a/traktor.tiff

(mine on the left )

and have a listen :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lc25utd65k9m7xg/journey%20abyyysss%20neumix.mp3

what do you think ? on my speakers the balance between low and high sounds good now - but the view in traktor says differnt.. maybe it will also look different after mastering when things are compressed a bit more ...

i also tryed some programm called spek to anylize the spectrum and it looks like i have put a highcut filter on mostly every channel at 16khz ... (which i did not.. )

screenshot spek mytrack :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2lxnoup8y0kg83/journey%20abyyysss%20neumix.tiff

screenshot spek the other track:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hmv1d9qdo6jrtx8/03-Electro_Sun_-_On_Air-ja.tiff

i also compared it to many other tracks in spek and also many pro tracks seem to have this cutoff line at 16khz .. not as heavy as my tune but still ... so what is this about ? and why does the other track even go up to 22 khz all the time ?

maybe someone can light me up a bit hehe

http://www.muckymusic.blogspot.de/
http://soundcloud.com/muckypuh-muckymusic

psyraal
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 11, 2012 18:47

you'll have more luck if you post this in the production & music making section

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MuckyPuh
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 12, 2012 09:29

ok - i will try

Thx

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moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Oct 12, 2012 12:11

i always work with a spectralyser. earlier with the logic one now usin gRME DigiCheck. when u create a kick/bass. be sure it volumes are not clipping over the line u give. i work with -15 db for the bass section.

The 16khz cutoff is a mastering thing. i work with -20db on the hats cause the highs are ways to loud on big PA systems if set in linear.

may your kick cuts exactly at 16khz. there are frequencies u sometimes dont hear.

may it helps...

MuckyPuh
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 12, 2012 21:07

ok, it does help - thanks

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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Oct 13, 2012 19:24

Quote:

On 2012-10-12 12:11, moleqlarsuperstructure wrote:
. be sure it volumes are not clipping over the line u give. i work with -15 db for the bass section.

may it helps...

What do u mean with "not clipping over the line u give"?
thanx

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psyraal
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 15, 2012 22:14

Quote:

On 2012-10-13 19:24, Nomad Moon wrote:
Quote:

On 2012-10-12 12:11, moleqlarsuperstructure wrote:
. be sure it volumes are not clipping over the line u give. i work with -15 db for the bass section.

may it helps...

What do u mean with "not clipping over the line u give"?
thanx

@moleqlarsuperstructure said that, so he was reffering to the -15db bass thing.

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moleqlarsuperstructure
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 21, 2012 21:38

for me when i work with -15 db in the bass (means from 50 hz to ca 150hz, depends on key) holding the peak there.

it follows the midrange section

there I work with -20db with digicheck u can check every single signal and see wich one is peaking over -20db

and thats " the mysterious line" u give. understoodable?

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