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serra
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 23:34
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Thanks guys. |
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Elad
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Posted : Apr 28, 2005 02:19
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*good monitors - its your "glasses" to see whats going on..
*good soundcard - basic (i rather dsp based for better preformance - cpu)
*synth or 2 - i have nordlead and waldorf of friend they sound better then vst.. u can notice in 2 minutes.. tho vst is exellent also..
*acoustics - there is a little dirt on your "glasses" - that will clean them that u "see" clear.
*may be more 1 more synth - i gonna get new korg! 
*now u can spent $$ on eq... and not sure u get better result then variety of vst.. may b good compressor (not digital) is better idea.. or good stereo reverb..
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Morax
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Posted : Apr 28, 2005 04:06
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On 2005-04-27 22:54, Lord Deo wrote:
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On 2005-04-27 22:35, Morax wrote:
true, still room acoustics makes a big difference.
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true too, but our guy here has "esi near 05 active monitors".
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come on man.... the esi 5"ers  |
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Plan_B
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Posted : Apr 28, 2005 12:24
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5"ers are problematic with the low end. i've got SP-5, and that's their weakspot - The 5" element can't drive the low ferqs as much as it should... resulting in inaccurate low end in the mix... so take it into considiration.
but as for the accoustic treatments, I've heard a lot of people insisting on you getting very pricey accoustic treatments for the smallest of rooms.
it's good to have accoustic treatment, but bear in mind that these kind of studios are control rooms. making it a lot less influenced by "dirt" on your sound (until some level - but not as much as recording live instruments or mics).
U can get a basic control room accoustic treatment for a small amount of $$$, for example:
http://www.pcaudiolabs.com/products.asp?catid=accessories&subcatid=blank_cd_dvds
check out "Studiofoam Wedge 2"
this should do just fine...
go there, and see what i mean...
don't get crazy over the treatment (unless ofcourse u record mics and non-line inputs...)
btw- it'll be a good idea to replace your 5"ers with a bigger drive (6.25" should do ) in the future.
Good luck.
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Morax
Triac
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Posted : Apr 28, 2005 14:17
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Great plan!, Plan_B |
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serra
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Posted : Apr 28, 2005 16:44
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I see I see. My monitors frequency range starts from 60hz, so should i buy a subwoofer so that i can mix the bass more accurately? The bass almost doesent exist when comparing to, lets say home theaters... |
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sy000321
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Posted : Apr 28, 2005 19:16
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serra, i would not go for the sub woofer!
It's better to have a good monitors because they're calibrated from factory.
With a sub-woofer it's hard to make sure its well calibrated with the woofer and you have to have mesuring equipment to make sure it's so!
Choose something with a bigger woofer.
If you're room is big go for a 8" woofer but beware because the bass out from a woofer that size may not be suitable for your room.
I've got a 6"1/2 woofer (alesis m1 mk2 active) and it works great on a moderatly small bedroom like mine.
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sophicos
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Posted : Apr 28, 2005 20:00
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On 2005-04-28 16:44, serra wrote:
..My monitors frequency range starts from 60hz, ...
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rather think of investing in a new much higher class monitor , in the same time make sure your room is treated with accustics or you are positive that the things inside the room or whatever is inside makes enough diffusion you will need for the creation.
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, check google please. read some stuff on what happends when u put a monitor in a room , theoreticly speaking of an empty room .
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TRapp
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Posted : Apr 28, 2005 20:52
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IT DOESNT MATTER IF THEY ARE NEAR-FIELD OR NOT!!!!! ACOUSTICS ARE KEY!!!
room acoustics is everything, the dude who was going on about acoustics not mattering when having near-field monitors has obviously not heard the difference between having just near-field monitors and having monitors with acoustics.....
no matter what the situation there are always goi9ng to be reflections which will fuck up the stereo nearfield....
have you ever seen a pro studio and i mean a real pro studio with out some form of basstraps or auralex etc on the walls....
for instance if your monitors are close to a wall, then there are going to be muddy relfections , messing the low end up , hence,...acoustic foam behind the monitors to compensate....
diffusers are stuck to the walls to kill reflections etc....
i dont have any yet but i am saving for a basic auralex kit, my dad got one the other day and it works wonders....
if you make a mix and your acoustics are rubbish it will show on someones elses system let alone a commercial sys. etc....either too much booming bass or too little treble, too much treble etc....
so in short it dont matter if the monitors are near-field (for fucks sakes all studio monitors are nearfield) SORT OUT YOUR ROOM ACOUSTICS and find that monitoring "sweet-spot"
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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 01:02
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On 2005-04-27 21:45, Lord Deo wrote:
Well, when using near-field monitors, acoustics of the room don't make much difference unless you studio is setup in closet or cave. 
That's the whole point of near-field monitors, being close range and thus avoiding acoustic glitches caused by reflections of the room.
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I can't agree at all. Standing waves will be everywhere in the room including at the listening position and they will affect the output of nearfield monitors. Also flutter echo from the back and side of your room will colour the perception of the balance in the mix and can easily cause comb filtering with the direct output of your monitors (near field or not).
Sorry but what you are saying is simply not true.
FREGLE: Waves is seriously overpriced. For more powerfull, better sounding and MUCH cheaper plugins, go here: http://www.voxengo.com
I must admit that I do use the L3 multi occasionaly. But I usualy slap an Elephant 2 behind it because it sounds warmer.
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Elad
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 07:09
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the easyiest way to know how bad your acoustics are simply walk around when only bass is on.. it seem not to sound the same evrywhere ah? like huge diffrence.. and yeah sure it happen with near field monitors.. also beware that sound wont come to u from the desk but from speaker...
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