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serra
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Posted : Apr 25, 2005 19:47
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Im going to work soon and ill get some $$$ so i was planning to buy a hardware eq or reverb perhaps (sooner or later). Are those cheap hardware effects any good? For example "Alesis
PEQ-450"? I have all waves plugins so do i have to buy effects that cost more than a car to get better sound than waves? 
Anyways, whats your opinion on what should be my next investment? Maybe you could suggest some good and cheap(?) effects? Maybe ill buy nothing...
My "studio":
esi near 05 active monitors,
Behringer ub1002 mixer,
M-Audio audiophile 2496 soundcard,
Evolution mk-449c midikeyboard controller
and an AMD Sempron 2400+ with 512ddr and so on. |
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slyman604
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Posted : Apr 25, 2005 19:55
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you should check out the Tc Powercore. It would give you alot more bang for the buck. |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 25, 2005 20:17
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And start by spending money on accoustics. There is no point in spending money on expensive EQ/Reverb or whatever if you can't make good decisions about the settings anyway.
After that, spend money on good monitors (if you don't allready have them) and only after that start looking at special EQ, reverb, compression etc.
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s0ft
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Posted : Apr 25, 2005 22:45
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UnderTow:
is it really important to invest in accoustics at the start? i thought it would be better to wait on that sort of thing until you get the actual "music making" down and then start focusing on the science side of music.
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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 02:18
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s0ft: You are absolutely right. First get the music part right.
On the other hand, when someone starts thinking about getting hardware EQ/compressors/reverb instead of using Waves pluggins because they might sound better, the first thing to do is make sure you can actually hear what is going on. Otherwise it is a bit pointless.
So no, accoustics is probably not the most important thing right at the start.
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fregle
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 15:41
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well... ur waves EQ already cost 600$, so if u want a hardware EQ u'll need to buy one which is at least more expensive then that... in fact all waves plugins are hugely expensive, so finding hardware that will sound better will cost more, and that means it will be VERY expensive...
anyway, i wouldn't buy hardware reverb or EQ anymore... an entire recording channel from focusrite or something like that is always handy, some old analogue fx are handy to have lying around in hardware, but EQ, compression, reverb, delay,... is much easier/handyer inside a computer
and indeed, if u want to make ur sound better, first concentrate on acoustics to enhance ur listening environment, then on expensive outboard gear to make ur sound even better... But as i said, waves plugins are already as expensive or more expensive than most hardware that does the same. |
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serra
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 19:29
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Yea, i thought so. Just wondering So what kind of analogue fx are you talking about? |
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Morax
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 20:00
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my suggestion is first to get "flatter" monitor.
after getting good monitor and room acoustics, check about outboards. |
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fregle
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 20:41
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well, i still use my very old and dusty analogue flanger (although it can't be synced) because it sounds breathtaking... Didn't find any software that can beat it yet. 1 have an analogue mono-chorus (yes, it exists...) and stereo-chorus, and both sound better then any software-chorus i heard to date. Another favorite of mine is a nice filter there are lots of great sounding software filters these days, but i still sometimes use my real analogues... overdrive/distortion is in fact an effect that can only be achieved with analogue hardware, software can only emulate it... But there are very good software alternatives for that too these days... But i still use my hardware fuzzes and overdrives, they sound too great not to...
What i don't use in hardware anymore is EQ, reverb, delay, any other digital effect, compression, expansion, limiting,... it's too hard and unrewarding to still do these things with hardware...
ofcourse, opinions will defer on this subject, but most people who know their way around hardware and software will understand why i chose not to throw those hardware fx/soundsources/processors, while chucking others out the window ... |
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Lord Deo
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 21:45
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Well, when using near-field monitors, acoustics of the room don't make much difference unless you studio is setup in closet or cave. 
That's the whole point of near-field monitors, being close range and thus avoiding acoustic glitches caused by reflections of the room.
Anyway if you're into hardware reverbs, i'd say get kurzweil mangler or rumour, they're really good. When it comes to quality of the sound don't consider cheap gear, like alesis PEQ-450, if that your price range, you better off getting vst or dx effect.
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Morax
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 22:08
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On 2005-04-27 21:45, Lord Deo wrote:
Well, when using near-field monitors, acoustics of the room don't make much difference unless you studio is setup in closet or cave.
That's the whole point of near-field monitors, being close range and thus avoiding acoustic glitches caused by reflections of the room.
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room acoustics makes a damn huge difference.
my mixes are sounds totaly different in other rooms even if they have the same monitor. |
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Lord Deo
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 22:26
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with the near field monitors????
Dude, the purpose of near field monitors is to compensate the acoustic glitches of the room, that's why they are called near field. they aren't meant to be listened from long range.
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Morax
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 22:35
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true, still room acoustics makes a big difference. |
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psypox
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 22:37
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Lord Deo
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 22:54
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On 2005-04-27 22:35, Morax wrote:
true, still room acoustics makes a big difference.
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true too, but our guy here has "esi near 05 active monitors". |
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