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Posted : Oct 4, 2011 15:57
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On 2011-10-03 22:13, cyclone wrote:
I would like to know how to create a question and answer with lead and percussion as Upvas sent..
a easy way is first you make a lead with good ryhtm and melodie like usual... then you explode the midi line in 2 or 3 or 4 track with each a different synth patch, then you choose what note of the inital melodie each track play.. you can change octave ,adjust note size ,play harmony what ever you want and sound right with the patchs used. not sure it s clear..
The wonderfullest example of this is imo
find in the works of JS Bach in the Fuge of his Toccata BWV 565:
Listen from 3:57-4:52
For me these phrases are realy spiritual...
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great enjoy ..
I wish to see Zakkir Hussain in Hamburg again I saw him with Shakti in 2004 or 2003 winter was amazing and very musical/spiritual ceremony.Unforgettable.
Nice Zakir Rules!! .. Tabla is the only percussion instrument (if i am correct or one of the few .. ) which can talk ..as in which can play all 12 Notes .. other perc instruments have tones like congo,bongo,djembe etc..
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Posted : Oct 4, 2011 18:51
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hello is it possible someone to explain in theory the question & answer people use in their music?
If i get u correct in Psy you can place your notes(keeping 1 scale in mind) with different arrangements in Bars..
for example.. C D D# could be question & G D# D could be the answer .. u can play around with notes .. go up & down in notes/octaves to find your best hooks or story Look Around You - EP Out Now on (Planet Ben records)
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Posted : Oct 4, 2011 22:00
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hello is it possible someone to explain in theory the question & answer people use in their music?
If i get u correct in Psy you can place your notes(keeping 1 scale in mind) with different arrangements in Bars..
for example.. C D D# could be question & G D# D could be the answer .. u can play around with notes .. go up & down in notes/octaves to find your best hooks or story
thanks man....
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Posted : Oct 4, 2011 22:13
for dancin music as psytrance rhytimic call and response might gives better effects than scales call and response...unless u applyin both..
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Posted : Oct 4, 2011 23:08
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Tabla is the only percussion instrument (if i am correct or one of the few .. ) which can talk ..as in which can play all 12 Notes .. other perc instruments have tones like congo,bongo,djembe etc..
That depends on how you look at it, bongos, Congas, Djembe, Tabla, they all have to be tuned... and you can make melody with them,
Questions and answers make up a lot of the story of a good track. Phrasing with melody is one way, you can also phrase with rhythm, even kick bass... listen to someone asking you a question, listen carefully to how he or she is asking, then listen to your reply, again carefully, now take the vibe from each and make it into something that sounds good in your track.
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Posted : Oct 4, 2011 23:32
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Tabla is the only percussion instrument (if i am correct or one of the few .. ) which can talk ..as in which can play all 12 Notes .. other perc instruments have tones like congo,bongo,djembe etc..
That depends on how you look at it, bongos, Congas, Djembe, Tabla, they all have to be tuned... and you can make melody with them,
Questions and answers make up a lot of the story of a good track. Phrasing with melody is one way, you can also phrase with rhythm, even kick bass... listen to someone asking you a question, listen carefully to how he or she is asking, then listen to your reply, again carefully, now take the vibe from each and make it into something that sounds good in your track.
true that but message would be more clear with the medium of melodies or chords/rhytms (whole music) i feel percs are less effective wen it comes to messages or story.. Percs fill more of the groove .. and same goes for Tabla >> its called TAAL(indian word)when they practice tabla its a whole-sole instrument to have all Notes "not the tones" !! i can play a little bit.. i also have 2 djembes 1 low & 1 high !!
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Posted : Oct 4, 2011 23:54
Hey Karma Kontakt interesting post about tabla. I know what you mean with it , just curious isn'T it 9 or 10 notes? Of course bongo and most membranophones is 'noise' or a sound without tonality a short sound. And tabla got the indian notes but thats not 12 like ina european scale .. dunno sa ri ga ma pa dha ni I guess or is it wrong? Maybe someone can clearify this..
.. lots of riddims for tabla sounds different like more notes. I'd be interested in getting more infos about it..sounds like for fingers maybe sa ri ga ma pa.. and for palm sound like thom tham and stuff Peace
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Posted : Oct 5, 2011 00:57
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.. lots of riddims for tabla sounds different like more notes. I'd be interested in getting more infos about it..sounds like for fingers maybe sa ri ga ma pa.. and for palm sound like thom tham and stuff Peace
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Posted : Oct 5, 2011 02:39
this is psytrance!
mesage and answer doesn't need to be with particular sound or drum or whatever. this is not the correct thought process for electronic psychedelic music in my opinion.
the question answer here should be of a thought, an idea, sound.
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Posted : Oct 5, 2011 06:29
IMO only with music theory a deep there than it is really 4d.. just colours are 3 d hehe.
The right combination of notes form the most psychedelic sounds and moods ,add an acid sound colour as vesture to such melos and it's a really unique flight for sure.
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Posted : Oct 5, 2011 08:35
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Question and answer are indeed important, you can use anything to create that, people do it with lead, percussion, fx, even kick bass !
True ..
+ Mello and atmos (Or may i say everything) .
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Questions and answers make up a lot of the story of a good track. Phrasing with melody is one way, you can also phrase with rhythm, even kick bass
+ Same pattern different note + Some times change 1 of the notes 'Up or down' (Not all the pattern - Just here and there) For this kind of point . (1-2-3 Different Vst's runing on the same pattern will be great too (Not have to be 1x1 But sure will bring in much more colors , Levels , Space and deepness)
Sure put/Make track be sound more interesting .
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Posted : Oct 5, 2011 10:30
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On 2011-10-04 23:54, TimeTraveller wrote:
Hey Karma Kontakt interesting post about tabla. I know what you mean with it , just curious isn'T it 9 or 10 notes? Of course bongo and most membranophones is 'noise' or a sound without tonality a short sound. And tabla got the indian notes but thats not 12 like ina european scale .. dunno sa ri ga ma pa dha ni I guess or is it wrong? Maybe someone can clearify this..
.. lots of riddims for tabla sounds different like more notes. I'd be interested in getting more infos about it..sounds like for fingers maybe sa ri ga ma pa.. and for palm sound like thom tham and stuff Peace
yes you are right its Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni Sa - but thats just the SARGAM (kind of C to C) to practice Indian Classical Music .. and its very deep when it comes to study or reading classical music .. But in table your hands does all the magic .. in tabla the right technique of using your palm, fingers, strokes can play more than 20 sounds may be ...
the combination of scales & pitch all comes mainly from singing first & than the instruments compliment the same.. if you listen to ravi shankar(sitar), hari prasad chauraisya(flute) , nusrat fateh ali khan(singing) you can hear lot of Real Pitch Modulation going on in there singing or instruments.. Its amazing !!
enjoy ..
