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question about using other peoples riffs
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jizy
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 19:02
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goa-hunter
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 19:13
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On 2009-06-05 13:42, jizy wrote:
do it then mate, u wont face the death penalty. Have fun , u got a burnin hot idea get it down and dirty with your DAW
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defo!!!! |
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Obelizk
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Posted : Jun 6, 2009 04:02
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On 2009-06-05 17:22, septa wrote:
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On 2009-06-05 15:08, Obelizk wrote:
why steal riffs? How does that help music evolve? If it happens accidentally, that can happen, but using them purposely I don't see why anyone would do that.
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are you saying you can't consciously include a phrase as a tribute to the original creator
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Taking a phrase in trance is taking a whole section of a song. In tribute that's great. If you're going to take a section out of another song just because it sounds good doesn't make it yours or original.
Being inspired by good music doesn't mean copying it.
But on what Disco Hooligans said, what he does isn't steal music. He is influenced by good music and that helps him write good music. I dig the new record by the way.
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ansolas
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Posted : Jun 6, 2009 19:44
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the daleks
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Posted : Jun 15, 2009 09:26
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Wow! what a polarized discussion. I never thought it would end up this way, but then again, should have known on here 
well... Cream stole Crossroads from Robert Johnson and made it their own song. boo-hoo
I think even Jimi Hendrix "borrowed" a few phrases from Muddy Waters, etc. I'm with Pipe & Slippers and Septa. We don't live in a vacuum, and you will regurgitate phrases you like of something you were influenced by subconsciously or intentionally. This happens all the time in music and art, and human culture as a whole
in fact, i kind of like it when I hear some bit of forgotten song on the dance floor, or a nice melody thats a familiar nod to something, as opposed to constant glitch rolls and non-musical effects noise
I was just trying to point out the fact midi files are a great phrase resource, although I wouldn't think midis of dance music would be as suitable
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gutter
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Posted : Jun 15, 2009 11:49
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Probably a dozen of the biggest bands of rock history have started their careers playing tribute songs or "new" remakes with the exact riffs taken from Chuck Berry's discography
Most of the times i play on my midi i come up with tunes that are always familiar with something ive heard, especially when writing on pentatonic scale, either it is from trance or rock or reggae, there is always a connection with the "roots", its happens even subconsciously without knowing that time and when listening back you find that reminder
I believe that this (the musical background of each one) has a big influence to the audience, if someone has the same music background or likings will find that connections in your music interesting, in example its like listening to goa trance tunes, you wont play the same minor melody but whatever minor melody you decide to play or fits to the track will end up on the goa overall feeling, will end on that path again
If someone finds him/her self to be Stravinsky or something like that and is really that talented then my sincerely respect, but i dont think there are so many huge talented musicians that can break centuries of musical knowledge and make something new, and these people dont play trance thats for sure..
All of us write music based on influences, subconsciously or not, and thats a fact
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