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Question about Traktor and headphones

RatInAKage
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 09:35
I have a questions regarding using Traktor to DJ live with headphones. I currently have an Edirol PCR 30 MIDI controller and a laptop. I have used them in the past to control Traktor 2.5. I would now like to also buy an external Sound Blaster Audigy 2 to use for live performances (laptop sound card gives a bit of a buzz). As I understand it, the Audigy has more than two output channels. My question is, can Traktor be configured in such a way that I can have stereo output going to the mixing desk and a third output going to my headphones?

I know this is possible using the Herculese controller, but I want to know if it is possible with a regular Midi controller and a nice external sound card. If you have done it before, some instructions would also be super appreciated

Peace out,

Guy
diskonekt
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 10:55
Yes Traktor can be configured that way.You can send 2 stereo channels from the audigy to the mixer and then use the mixer headphone out for your headphones.
I wouldn't recommend it though.You'll have latency problems and not so good sound coming out . So gather up a few more bucks and spend on a better
audio card.There are many external cards with 2 stereo out that don't cost thaat much and will give way better results than the audigy !
cheers man            Peace, Love, Death metal
diskonekt
Fat Data

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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 10:56
Ohhh one more thing , i'd stay away from the hercules console too            Peace, Love, Death metal
RatInAKage
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 11:20
Thanks for the advice dude.

So you say, Audigy cant really handle the whole sterio output and headphone output thing too well...?

Can you give me a example of a better audio card?

Thanks!
diskonekt
Fat Data

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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 11:51
Hmm yes and no.What i'm saying is that it can handle the 2 stereo output no problems.Sound from both traktor decks will come out,each one in it's channel on the outboard mixer.But there'll be significal latency when for example twisting a knob on your controller and the response it'll actually have on traktor.It won't be perfectly synced (well as synced as it can be so it sounds ok).
Moreover , the track waveform you see in traktor won't be exactly what you hear but a few milliseconds ahead of it.Things like that ,which is a real pain in the ass when trying to beatmach and change between 2 tracks.

IMO a better and not too pricey audio card choice would be the terratec phase 26 usb
http://www.musicstore.de/en/PC-Equipment/12_17_CUSBA_0_PCM0002719-000/0/0/0/detail/musicstore.html

or the ESI U46 DJ
http://www.musicstore.de/en/PC-Equipment/12_17_CUSBA_0_PCM0004946-000/0/0/0/detail/musicstore.html

Hope i helped man , cheers!            Peace, Love, Death metal
RatInAKage
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 12:18
Heya

now im a little confuse. Why do i need a stereo output coming from each of the turtables. Surely traktor is combining the two songs in the mix and creating one stereo output which i plug into the mixing desk...?

diskonekt
Fat Data

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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 13:23
Sorry man , didn't get your words right from the begining I thought you cared about using a dj mixer and pass each traktor deck on a separate mixer channel.
So you just need one stereo output for the mixer and one more for the headphones , right ? Yes the audigy is capable ofcourse for that hehe Everything else goes as the answers above.
Oh and since i saw you're using a laptop you might want to check a pcmcia card such as the echo indigo dj.
cheers !            Peace, Love, Death metal
RatInAKage
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 16:23
Thanks for the info, seems like you know whats going on...

guess i'll trust you and invest in the Audigy then. You can get it pretty cheap here in SA. I dont think I need an internal sound card. (assuming thats what the pcmcia is...) I think I will look alot cooler with an external one hehe.

Have you actually used the Audigy? I found with the Edirol PCR and with using the herculese, that its almost impossible to get anything to work and usually requires some elaborate trick. What im asking is, how difficult is it going to be to set up and all...?

laters...
RatInAKage
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 17:26
Heya,

also just to be sure, im taking about the Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 NX (External) as seen http://www.take2.co.za/product.php?id=11669 ....



zafer
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 22:07
what about a masterkeyboard/midi controller with integrated audiocard for this job..?
diskonekt
Fat Data

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Posted : Jan 20, 2006 04:34
what about this one ?
http://www.djmart.com/allen--heath-xone-3d-dj-mixer.html

or an audio card and smthg much more affordable like:
http://www.faderfox.de/Faderfox-Homepage_english/faderfox-homepage_english.html
the micromodul DJ1 ... sold out though ... waiting for new version

cheers !            Peace, Love, Death metal
RatInAKage
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Posted : Jan 20, 2006 09:02
heya

zafer: I already have a midi controller. Need the sound card part now...

age: that 3d dj mixer is flippen expensive. The faderfox one is soo cheap and perfect looking. but they only ship to Europe..

What did you say was so bad about the herculese..?

G (very excited for pay day!)
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Jan 20, 2006 14:45
I use firewire 410 with tracktor and have no latency at all. What I see in the waveform is what I hear with no delays, and when I change the knobs things are pretty much instant...
DiMiTry
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Posted : Feb 28, 2006 04:40
Quote:

On 2006-01-20 09:02, RatInAKage wrote:
The faderfox one is soo cheap and perfect looking. but they only ship to Europe..



they ship worldwide now, it seems.           ..it's just another party..
Schizomorph


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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 18:25
Quote:
(laptop sound card gives a bit of a buzz)
Posted by : RatInAKage
Posted on : 2006-01-19 09:35



Most laptops have this buzz, it's because they are not actually grounded at all! I don't think buying a new soundcard will fix that. It's like dirty currets that can't be sent to the ground so the just wonder 'round aimlesly ;-)
If you can borrow a DI from someone, try DIing it to see if that works.
It wouldn't be a good idea to spend any money until you try that.           Converting VegiNaritarians
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