without any joke, why dont you google for the difference and deside on your own whats better now?
agree on the apricot thingy, they´re aging pretty fast and get horrible wrinkly skin. also the kernel is not made to be planted into a audio root system, so better leave´em
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i grown in a family where all uses mac for work reasons, so after 12 year of my first "Clamshell" i can tell u:
macs are like a glamorous expensive sluts,
pcs are like average next door girl
pro to mac are:
-CORE AUDIO is fuckin rock solid (if vs pc's built in audio)can be compared to an asio driver on interface and has s/pdif i/o
- no windows unless u want
-stability under certain conditions
-aestetichs and material resistance is generally slightly better
(my previous macbook survived 2years of raves, mojito spillage,joint burns,ashes,terrain powder and my ex-gf driving style )
Altough as a mac old-jerker i have to say that newer macs are much more weak than 2-3 years ago,
-graphics cards are good (but if u do audio only ignore this)
cons are:
-you are trapped inside apple fishnets
(broke an ac charger?:100€,and so on,spare parts and techician are so expensive)
-you pay the machine twice or so a pc (hackintosh may be less expensive if u have to run the leopard)
-1 year only warranty (instead of 2 average) and listen me bro, they broke,they broke (98% after 1 year)
My actual macbook pro is away for 1 month for repair some hardware issues
-the major part of heavy mac users become mac-taliban at a certain point,
so every turd with an apple logo become the last lush for them(iphone ipad ipod icacam'u'cazz'vaffanbocc'echitemmuorte)
So, the better thin would be TRY a mac and a PC for certain time, if u can't do me a favour:
DON'T LISTEN THE BULLSHIT CLAIMED ON THEIR WEBSITE
Alluminium can be scratched and no way a battery can last 10 hours (probably if u don't use the machine)
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I recently spent a large amount of time installing leapord on my PC to try out Mac OS and have a little play with logic.
It has only affirmed my decision to stick with PC for the near future....
Nothing wrong with MacOS, seems quick and I'm not sure but it seems to transfer files a bit quicker? I liked Spaces and the relative ease of setting things up.
However, after using ableton for the past 7 months or so and having never used Logic, Logic's interface made absolutely no sense to me at all, confused the shit out of me...
but yah, so the situation remains the same for me. Will be sticking with PC unless someone decides to shower me with tons of money - would rather spend half the money that I would spend on a mac to get an equally powerful PC plus a couple synths/hardware pieces, as opposed to over-paying out the ass to support a brand with shitty business practices
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
www.soundcloud.com/tasp www.soundcloud.com/kinematic-records
so why more studios and people uses macs?
i didnt really get what you all was talking about..
does mac make my sound better in any kind of way?
macs are strongers then a normal PC?
please answer..
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Posted : Jul 8, 2010 22:16
well, if you want to use Logic then you are forced to use Macs.....because years ago Apple bought the company that makes Logic and told them to not make a version for PCs anymore.
In terms of your raw sound output, it does not matter. In terms of ease of use, I can see some benefits to choosing mac - you don't have to deal with audio driver issues as much as on windows. Stability in my opinion is dead-even with the release of windows 7 which is remarkably stable. From what I hear, Logic crashes a lot.
as far as 'stronger' - if you mean tough and resistant to physical damage, I dont believe that macs are more than equal to the other brand-name laptop makers like ASUS.
In terms of hardware, macs are massively *massively* overpriced. Recently bought a laptop for my girlfriend...17 inch screen, 500gig harddrive, i5 2.4 ghz processor, 4 gigs of ram...really nice responsive machine, really well made - perfectly happy with it. Price? under 1000.
Same exact specs with a slower harddrive in a mac pro? $2400. Macs use the same components as everyone else these days, so they're basically marking up the hardware to 2-3x its cost....or the mac OS costs around $1000 by itself?
At the end of the day, regardless of my personal gripes with apple, I would probably switch to a mac if it just fell into my lap with all the software I needed. However, that's money I just don't have so I'd rather get more equipment for the money that I do have and continue to use windows until I win the lottery.
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
www.soundcloud.com/tasp www.soundcloud.com/kinematic-records
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On 2010-07-08 22:04, HaydenLM1 wrote:
so why more studios and people uses macs?
i didnt really get what you all was talking about..
does mac make my sound better in any kind of way?
macs are strongers then a normal PC?
There is no difference, I worked with both and both worked great at times and really sucked too. The myth that a mac does not break down is what it is: a myth. Both have pro's and con's !
I really would go for the Coconut btw.
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Posted : Jul 9, 2010 01:53
with pc you have so many different mothers boards,cpu, cards... that it s maybe harder to get a stable computer and to have bug fixed ( but personally i never had much problems using one since windows 98 except with midi that never been very tight but maybe it s the same on mac) but all that finding the best cards,cpus ram...assembling your pc ,profesionals don t have time to waste with that, they are muscians or producers not computer geek that a reason why they get a mac but if you know about computers you can get something good for half the price of a mac but you don t get the mac experience that maybe why it s overpriced
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Apple always marketed their computers (and OS) as easy-to-use. Intuitive. Their monitors also used to ship with higher-grade Sony CRTs and made a reputation for beautiful picture quality. (I am talking about eons before OS X) Together, these two factors made Macs very popular among graphic designers and visual artists. Flip through any book on Photoshop – all screenshots are going to be from the Mac version. I went to a couple of Photoshop workshops. The classroom was equipped with beat-up generic PCs, while the instructor’s laptop was Mac – because this is what he uses in his main job. Apple continues catering to the creative types, even on an amateur level. Mac OS ships with a copy of Garage Band, for example.
I used to be a Windows chauvinist. Not because I liked Windows but because I hated Mac OS. Version 8 looked and felt stupid to me. Version 9 was a total abomination. And Mac’s fans did not make it easier for me to like the stupid thing. Don’t tell me how stable it is, while I am hard-resetting the machine for the fifth time today! And all those academic fans with their “Oh, it’s so easy to use”... You have a PhD in organic chemistry, for Pete’s sake – can you really not figure out how to use an extra button on your mouse?! Yeah, it was intense...
Anyway, at some point I got stuck using a Mac at work. It was OS 10.4 and I loved it. I take back all the crap I just wrote in the previous paragraph: it’s a stable, beautiful, easy to use OS. And it can run Windows – which is not true the other way around. That machine had a G4. I am sure things got only better with Intel.
Pricewise, they still totally suck, though. Outrageous rip-off.
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Posted : Jul 9, 2010 06:49
as a long time pc user, i got a mac book pro for 100 bucks and a pack of cigarettes. and then my buddy brought me the latest imac thing.
honestly? after many many years of pc use and trying to write music on pcs...
i'm never going back.
simply put: macs are for people that are on computers to much and don't care to learn the technical aspects of them, or they're on computers to much and want complete control.
get a mac, put linux on it, and run windows as a VM. that has gotten me very far.
