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quality of psychedelic music today... your opinion?
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Fuzulu
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Posted : Jun 20, 2009 00:44
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and also stuff like the muses rapt and all ... u know the really beautifull emotional music .... i think there is a lot less of that ... but on the other hand there is much more groovy stuff ... like lots of suomi and foresty stuff !! |
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Fuzulu
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Posted : Jun 20, 2009 00:46
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so my final opinion  the older morning sutff was more emotional ... and the older night stuff was wierder ... but still there is loads of good music around and better cleaner quality and pumpier basslines and grooves ... and sum stuff is really flowing and ripping |
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supergroover
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Posted : Jun 20, 2009 14:43
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On 2009-06-09 16:42, braininavat wrote:
I think at some point you just need to stop trying to find something that blows you away like the music did in the first year you started listening to it.
It kind of reminds me of the first time I had indian food, having only had bland american food prior. While I will experience many great meals going forward, no meal can be as mind blowing as that first indian meal. Trying to compare every meal I eat to that experience really detracts from the joy of a new meal in the present.
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Very good point that all the people saying 'there is no goo psy out there' should really keep in mind. You have had your first xtc pill already.. it is never gonna be as intense as before from now on... |
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daark
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Posted : Jun 20, 2009 22:44
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all good psy producers retired or making not trance few are still doing it and there is a lot of others that are just copycats and copycats of copycats
there are no geniuses now only wannabies
and all those independent lables
still most of the crowd can't tell the difference in music
and why all the good people give up?
in my opinion there are very few professionals left and even fewer creative ones
i think people should start to break the structures and rules i hear only true psy producers doing it give the dj a challenge and many i hear really give me bad vibes from samples has nothing to do with lsd
that is why older people come less and less cause it is ruined by children
quality of wasted children bah |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 23, 2009 04:01
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On 2009-06-20 22:44, daark wrote:
quality of wasted children bah
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Wasted children aren't as good as they used to be...
...and there's an huge amount of excellent psychedelic music around - new and old - if you just widen your search beyond that tiny tiny "psytrance" box. If psytrance isn't as good as it used to be, I think it's at least partly because the inspiration for a lot of the trance written today isn't an experience, or a feeling, but someone else's psytrance track. This leads to a recycling of sounds and ideas and, eventually, to stagnation.
But of course there aren't any artists bringing forth new ideas, or producing proper psychedelic music in the trance genre, or trying to invest their music with honest emotion, or cross-fertilising trance with ideas and techniques from other genres of music noooooo, of course not. 
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moki
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 17:27
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i think they are too many people who want to produce music( i am answering to the first post in the topic and not to the last).
it is really unbelievable.....anyone who has tried to experiment to make music, knows how fast you can create a simple track. it is absolutely non-pretentious, it is just some modulating and scrabbing and you get very fast a simple track with a melody and basses and two or three things more. this is exactly what i hear mostly nowadays. it is such an offense for the word music. and the problem is that many dont even notice the core of the problem. they are the "artists" and the simple freaks dont notice it anyway ( irony)
you dont even need to read score because you work with two or three notes only. so anyone can make music who does not even know what is a score. sorry if i abuse anyone, and actually i am bowing out of respect toward those who really CAN, but most cannot make good music. they cannot do anything besides the lowest standard of the software they use.
and they are pretending all the time that they have done anything at all. sure, they can do it forever like that, i dont have a problem with this anymore.  as far as i dont need to hear it.
but i think that many listeners have got quite a good idea about this fact in the few three four years. and they dont want it. why should they? the quality is getting worse and i just dont even need to take care to listen to all this stuff. may ve we are very near to a time when everyone will make music on the back office laptop. they there would be probably more people who would know when it is really professional and when not.
and since i am mainly interested in music at the parties and not in social meetings, i decided that i leave them for now. it has been like that for some months now , i dont go anymore. i have better time doing it on my own the way i want.
i think that psytrance has not died. never will.
but it is just time to remember that only a few artists have the channel...the rest is producing too much. why not spend 6 months more on a track but then make it really killer?
anyway, lovely greets to all of you. hope you will not let psy trance die...
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 17:44
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daark
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 17:46
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On 2009-06-23 04:01, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2009-06-20 22:44, daark wrote:
quality of wasted children bah
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Wasted children aren't as good as they used to be...
...and there's an huge amount of excellent psychedelic music around - new and old - if you just widen your search beyond that tiny tiny "psytrance" box. If psytrance isn't as good as it used to be, I think it's at least partly because the inspiration for a lot of the trance written today isn't an experience, or a feeling, but someone else's psytrance track. This leads to a recycling of sounds and ideas and, eventually, to stagnation.
But of course there aren't any artists bringing forth new ideas, or producing proper psychedelic music in the trance genre, or trying to invest their music with honest emotion, or cross-fertilising trance with ideas and techniques from other genres of music noooooo, of course not.
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respect to u
you have nice original tracks i really like youre music
u know most things i said wrong cause i am really dissapointed.
I love this music.
Anyway i have my taste.Sorry for being negative...the amateurs deserve a chance and i am not the one to judge it is all subjective....after all it is just music i know it is like apples on the same tree some sweet some bitter after all its apples |
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ilbone
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 22:35
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On 2009-05-02 16:30, Soul Kontakt wrote:
With all the bullshit out there i still can't find any dancefloor music that makes me dance like never before...Most of the music i hear is flat has no perspective, no story and for sure far away from being psychedelic...I think that todays producers work with there mind and not with there hearth, there is so much new equipment, so many combinations but all i can hear is the same loops over and over again! Were is the orginiality we all seek in music? How can we be part of something we don't like? There is not too much music at all, in fact keeping in min the the psychedelic expression in music there is no psychedelic music at all! I am amazed how people who pass through a psychedelic experience can then dance to todays music!
Sure enough time will pass and new music will come hopefully better and stronger than before! But we are all still working and waiting for the sound that will unite the people into a strong dancefloor mayhem, dancing building up a ball of energy that will make us all explode into a new level of consiousness!
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Fuck yeah absolutely right dude! |
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ilbone
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 22:45
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On 2009-06-04 05:36, 1jAdE3 wrote:
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On 2009-05-02 16:30, Soul Kontakt wrote:
..the psychedelic expression in music there is no psychedelic music at all! I am amazed how people who pass through a psychedelic experience can then dance to todays music!
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tssssss..
'Intolerant to evolution' this is kind of a headline for something like that ...
in the end i would agree with Basilisk.
I did a break with a lot of experimental stuff and i would say the same as Basilisk..
No more difference was offered in the last decade, so keep quite !
music is evolving and i won't dance to the old stuff again and again ... sorry... 
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Jesus i cant believe im seeing this, basically for you psytance is like fashion, other people wear the ugly clothes so why not im gonna wear them too kind of guy am i right?....if you've been listening to psytrance long enough than you should realise that the music we r getting now a days is not evolution at all!, what evolution are you talking about? the cheesy 'new' sounds? is that what you call evolution? music that sounds like the bloody soundtrack of a super mario game?, well dude if you think so im sorry to say that you never understood psytrance & never will. |
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Upavas
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 01:46
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Quality in what terms? Musical? technical?
The technological possibilities today are much more versatile and better quality than say 1988, as far as musical quality is concerned I think there is a lot of crap out there and also a lot of very nice tracks.
It really has to do with emotion for me, just like Colin says. And the last I have heard from him he definitely has the material to back it up with.
I do miss the emotion part a lot at times, but yes, there is a lot of really good stuff out there, and I am not talking about the likes of Posford etc... there are lots of great new people doing sound. Check your friend list on myspace...
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hardkornate
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 03:01
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I get my mind blown on a regular basis. Then again, I keep it open...
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JohnTaramas
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 03:49
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what a nice topic.. i m kinda newbie in forums, and topics like this made me wanna participate.
to me, music started to get cheaper from the moment that technology became easier for everyone to get. since then, the most common goal wanted to be achieved, was to make music sound like something allready known, in a way. so, after that, the organisers maintain this situation, when organising events with such artists. as a result,through time, the audience slowly forgets the older honest emotion as Colin said.
but people who approach music through emotion and experiment will allways exist. it is only a bit more difficult to come across.. also,there are artists who connect music with fashion and lifestyle,and listeners of this kind too. i m sad to say that the second ones are much more, but i really dont care about it because i slowly realize that there are more people than i thought, of the first kind.
what we can sure do, is keep digging and sharing music and knowledge.
greetings |
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Aluxe
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 07:39
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I kind of feel this way about psy trance today:
"I remember a time when music had soul, music had a conscience and music had balls...man." - Bill Hicks
Ofcourse Bill Hicks was looking back to the 60s with artists like Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd, etc.
But I think it applies to psy trance very well today. Bill nailed right there if you ask me. |
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ilbone
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 08:23
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On 2009-07-02 07:39, Aluxe wrote:
I kind of feel this way about psy trance today:
"I remember a time when music had soul, music had a conscience and music had balls...man." - Bill Hicks
Ofcourse Bill Hicks was looking back to the 60s with artists like Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd, etc.
But I think it applies to psy trance very well today. Bill nailed right there if you ask me.
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oh yes indeed |
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