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quality of psychedelic music today... your opinion?
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shellbound
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Posted : Apr 22, 2009 18:27
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what i think about the development of psychedelic trance is that there's too much unnecessary overANALyzing of the development of psychedelic trance.
i don't think psy is much different from other genres of electronic music... or really non-electronic as well, when it comes to questions like this. everybody has their own reasons for doing what they do. some people just like to please themselves and couldn't give a fuck what others think of their music. some people like their egos stroked. some people start in one place and end up in another due to whatever factors.
some people like to sit with their mouths open waiting to be spoon-fed. the fact they are being spoon-fed by shitty psy is not as important as the fact they are being spoon-fed in the first place. it's just as easily could be shitty breaks, shitty dnb, shitty polka, or Michael fucking Bolton.
other people like to dig. they don't need anybody telling them shit. they don't even need a shovel, they'll dig with their hands if they have to.
people producing shitty music... well, at least they are producing something, instead of zoning out in front of a tv. that's a positive development. nobody is forcing me to listen to their crap. let them do what they do. and i'll do what i do.
live and let live... and all that happy shit.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Apr 22, 2009 18:37
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On 2009-04-22 18:27, septa wrote:
what i think about the development of psychedelic trance is that there's too much unnecessary overANALyzing of the development of psychedelic trance.
i don't think psy is much different from other genres of electronic music... or really non-electronic as well, when it comes to questions like this. everybody has their own reasons for doing what they do. some people just like to please themselves and couldn't give a fuck what others think of their music. some people like their egos stroked. some people start in one place and end up in another due to whatever factors.
some people like to sit with their mouths open waiting to be spoon-fed. the fact they are being spoon-fed by shitty psy is not as important as the fact they are being spoon-fed in the first place. it's just as easily could be shitty breaks, shitty dnb, shitty polka, or Michael fucking Bolton.
other people like to dig. they don't need anybody telling them shit. they don't even need a shovel, they'll dig with their hands if they have to.
people producing shitty music... well, at least they are producing something, instead of zoning out in front of a tv. that's a positive development. nobody is forcing me to listen to their crap. let them do what they do. and i'll do what i do.
live and let live... and all that happy shit.
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Well said mate!
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toogoodforyou
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Posted : Apr 22, 2009 21:22
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On 2009-04-21 07:32, psysnoopy wrote:
Im happy with the psy music and parties. It's changing but I don't think the quality is decreasing. There's a lot of good music out there.
And I don't see any problem if artist or festival wanna make a lot of money. I think they deserve it very much and Im willing to pay that money specially if Im having a good time because of that music or festival.
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People who get bored are listening to too much Psy. Monotony sucks.
There are other genres of music out there people. Electronic, non-electronic who cares. As long as you like it. |
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sG4rY
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Posted : Apr 22, 2009 21:44
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On 2009-04-22 18:27, septa wrote:
what i think about the development of psychedelic trance is that there's too much unnecessary overANALyzing of the development of psychedelic trance.
i don't think psy is much different from other genres of electronic music... or really non-electronic as well, when it comes to questions like this. everybody has their own reasons for doing what they do. some people just like to please themselves and couldn't give a fuck what others think of their music. some people like their egos stroked. some people start in one place and end up in another due to whatever factors.
some people like to sit with their mouths open waiting to be spoon-fed. the fact they are being spoon-fed by shitty psy is not as important as the fact they are being spoon-fed in the first place. it's just as easily could be shitty breaks, shitty dnb, shitty polka, or Michael fucking Bolton.
other people like to dig. they don't need anybody telling them shit. they don't even need a shovel, they'll dig with their hands if they have to.
people producing shitty music... well, at least they are producing something, instead of zoning out in front of a tv. that's a positive development. nobody is forcing me to listen to their crap. let them do what they do. and i'll do what i do.
live and let live... and all that happy shit.
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dude you are completely right and I completely agree with what you say! Your statement underlines the tolerance that is found in our scene.
But in one point I disagree with you: djs who play "their crap" force you to listen to it 
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shellbound
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Posted : Apr 22, 2009 22:33
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On 2009-04-22 21:44, sG4rY wrote:
But in one point I disagree with you: djs who play "their crap" force you to listen to it
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sure. but you still have choice. go to the chill-out stage. go away from the noise and socialize with people. not go at all, if it's shit all the time. throw your own small parties with your definition of "good" music.
what i have a problem with is the attitude of entitlement. like the world owes something to us. like it's there to please us and be some perfect incarnation of our confused little idea of reality. and if it doesn't fit in with that idea, we get angry, sad, depressed, irritated.
it is what it is and all any of us can do is make the best of it. sure, we can all try to make it better. but we can also try to adjust our attitude and our perception of it. people seem to forget that part.
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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 22, 2009 23:18
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Agreed, that's what I've been saying too, Septa!
Don't like the music, make your own. Don't like the party, throw your own. No one owes you anything. Everyone is free to express their opinion, just don't always expect people to do something about it. Most of the negative opinions expressed here are less than 1% of the actual scene anyway.
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Maya
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Posted : Apr 23, 2009 17:38
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On 2009-04-21 07:32, psysnoopy wrote:
Im happy with the psy music and parties. It's changing but I don't think the quality is decreasing. There's a lot of good music out there.
And I don't see any problem if artist or festival wanna make a lot of money. I think they deserve it very much and Im willing to pay that money specially if Im having a good time because of that music or festival.
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Totaly agree with his point!!
But I also think that the music have change in last 8 years... it's look like that artists are making tracks to win money, not cause they like to do it... so, I think the music are much more comercialist and for that, I think music worst in the last years. But I still listen it cause I love! But I preffer the musics from years ago.
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J
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Posted : Apr 23, 2009 20:50
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Lots of things changed, in the past 8 years...
Except for Pavel.
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sG4rY
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Posted : Apr 23, 2009 23:46
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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 24, 2009 00:52
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 24, 2009 00:57
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 24, 2009 01:03
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On 2009-04-23 20:50, John Doe® wrote:
Lots of things changed, in the past 8 years...
Except for Pavel.
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robomarket
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Posted : Apr 24, 2009 02:38
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the world has become fast..er. people are rushing to get nowhere. my logic behind the decreasing quality of psytrance music is that producers aren't spending enough time on their releases. i've heard lots of crappy tracks from intelligent producers. why is that? because they rush to have a quantitative output.
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valersia
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Posted : Apr 24, 2009 07:38
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i think that is a lot of very good music,but are less the musicians that twisted their minds making something deep and elaborated, incorporating the constant evolution of technology.
many musucians maybe prefer to make tracks less intricated whit that they goes good,cause the mass consume more digestible music to the mind and ears,that can sound simple and obtuse for the public with desire of quality of production.
but i think that is many killer music in the least considered places,and the choose is in each one..personally i think that is so many music that i will never hear,that makes me sad in a way jaajjaajaja |
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Ah-sid
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Posted : Apr 24, 2009 11:35
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evolution is the universal law.but then evo is usually towards the betterment for that particular entity.
regarding the evo of psy musik,imo,dosent look very bright.not that there isnt quality musik these days but the quantity of crap psy musik has over shadowed the few good ones.
for example vibe tribe,their 1st album was xcellent,but the new 1 destination unknown,shows that they have lost their way and ended up in commercial musik land.
earlier days the artist gave more importance to the psychedelia in the trak and the storyline.but now they started conc on the quality of the production rather than the quality of the psychedelia.very few artist like
sensient
krumelur
silicon sound
perfect stranger
cyklones
chromosome
ace ventura
to name a few from top of my head,has kept their quality in psy.
artist like
skazi
vibe tribe
fatali
have gone to the drain.
lota old labels like
phantasm
hommega
3d vison
have gone commercial too
but some like
spiral trax
parvati
zenon
cosmic conspiracy
have still got the juice in them.
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