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quality of psychedelic music today... your opinion?

sG4rY
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Posted : Apr 21, 2009 00:05:36
what do you think about the developement of Psychedelic Trance? Is the quality of the music decreasing although producers have better means to make far better music than they had a few years back? what are the reasons that some artists just try to make a lot of money out of a few hours in front of their computers or pretending to do live acts with their ibooks and others are trying to do their best to make good music with a lot of organic sounds, well thought changes in mood and harmony of the tracks that develope a whole story within 8 minutes?

I think it is partly due to the extremely big festivals in europe like boom, voov and full moon festival who are paying enormous high amounts of money, which is motivation for many artists to produce more commercial music to get the booking for sure.

another possibility might be a bit contrary... many labels that are doing compilations dont have the means to pay a lot of money for compilations. so the artists are not investing too much in producing new tracks because there is anyways just little money and publicity to expect, due to the mass of compilations that is released every year

These are just points that I am thinking of, with not much insight to the scene. probably some of you might write I am prejudiced and that it is not all about money (hrhr), but in the end we all want appreciation for what we do, in a material way or what ever!
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Posted : Apr 21, 2009 07:32
Im happy with the psy music and parties. It's changing but I don't think the quality is decreasing. There's a lot of good music out there.

And I don't see any problem if artist or festival wanna make a lot of money. I think they deserve it very much and Im willing to pay that money specially if Im having a good time because of that music or festival.

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Kane
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Posted : Apr 21, 2009 09:52
The advances in technology that you're talking about are the "problem" (if one exists). There's still as much good music (relative to the size of the scene) as there ever has been in terms of production quality and creativity, but there's a LOT more bad music, since making electronic music is a possibility for anyone with a decent computer and a couple hundred dollars (or the will to pirate or use all free software at first) at this point.

In 10 years, people will have forgotten all of the terrible music of today, only listening to the memorable and influential artists. Then they'll go and complain about the boring and trite music of their time, all of which will eventually be forgotten about, etc.           You believe in the users?
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J
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Posted : Apr 21, 2009 18:35
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On 2009-04-21 09:52, Kane wrote:
In 10 years, people will have forgotten all of the terrible music of today, only listening to the memorable and influential artists. Then they'll go and complain about the boring and trite music of their time, all of which will eventually be forgotten about, etc.


It's a natural thing!
Ellon
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Posted : Apr 21, 2009 19:43
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On 2009-04-21 09:52, Kane wrote:

In 10 years, people will have forgotten all of the terrible music of today, only listening to the memorable and influential artists. Then they'll go and complain about the boring and trite music of their time, all of which will eventually be forgotten about, etc.




Indeed!!! The long gone days...           
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dj atatri
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Posted : Apr 21, 2009 20:44
I belive music is supposed to evolve...and we are still evolving...           Dj Atatri
sG4rY
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Posted : Apr 21, 2009 20:50
of course music is an ever lasting evolutionary process, but as Darwin said there is some natural selection and only the fittest survive...

but are the fittest really always those who sell most records?           We watch a monkey perform not because he is an artist, but a monkey performing

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Martian Arts

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Posted : Apr 21, 2009 20:58
Quote:

On 2009-04-21 00:05:36, sG4rY wrote:
I think it is partly due to the extremely big festivals in europe like boom, voov and full moon festival who are paying enormous high amounts of money, which is motivation for many artists to produce more commercial music to get the booking for sure.


There is a lot of good music played there as well though, so I would not say that this is a factor.
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On 2009-04-21 00:05:36, sG4rY wrote:
another possibility might be a bit contrary... many labels that are doing compilations dont have the means to pay a lot of money for compilations. so the artists are not investing too much in producing new tracks because there is anyways just little money and publicity to expect, due to the mass of compilations that is released every year


It depends if you are doing it to make money, or for the love of music.
Some artists give away their music for free and did not spend any less time on doing the best job (to their abilities at least), because they would give it all away, for no money what so ever.


Anyhow, speaking for my self, the quality of the psychedelic music that gets played in my house, is fantastic.

There's no denying there is a lot of shite music around, but that does not change the fact that there is still some great music around.
          
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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 21, 2009 21:34
some of it could use moar psychedelic

some of the full-on stuff that's just overly trancy on the leads is blah

pipe&slippers album is great btw          http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Crying Orc Project
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Posted : Apr 21, 2009 23:45

Quote:

On 2009-04-21 00:05:36, sG4rY wrote:
another possibility might be a bit contrary... many labels that are doing compilations dont have the means to pay a lot of money for compilations. so the artists are not investing too much in producing new tracks because there is anyways just little money and publicity to expect, due to the mass of compilations that is released every year


It depends if you are doing it to make money, or for the love of music.
Some artists give away their music for free and did not spend any less time on doing the best job (to their abilities at least), because they would give it all away, for no money what so ever.

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well, first any artist wants to get payed for his work, and for the other thing,
artist needs to make tracks at 100% of their selfs anyhow for their sets and act's.
demoniac
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Posted : Apr 22, 2009 01:11
There is great music and shitty music, shitty music is released because nobody buys great music, so labels dont want to die and put some new tracks from artist who just want to be released, or tracks that are no so good but they are free
if u want the music ot be good, buy it, dont download it from the rippers from the net, who by the way make more money from it then the labels           VA - Spiritual Science out now!
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Apr 22, 2009 12:40
i think sometimes bad psychedelic ends up sounding good when you have not been listening for period 6months or more...when u hear a bad psychedelic track played by a dj at an unexpected venue like someones wedding or something it ends up being enjoyable..
i dont think there has been any significant development in the music, i am still using the same cd player and the same computer...even the sound has not evolved much the 4 by 4 bassline still gets me excited...and full on still rules the crowds whatever u say           When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
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Martian Arts

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Posted : Apr 22, 2009 12:44
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On 2009-04-22 12:40, Xolvexs wrote:
...and full on still rules the crowds whatever u say



And it also comes down to this, taste. People like what they like and based on that, they will say music sounds shite today, its not what it used to be, or that all this dark stuff that comes out is much better than the stuff of yesterdays...etc.

For example xolvexs likes full on, but I don't. Nothing wrong with that though, its what makes us different.
          
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sG4rY
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Posted : Apr 22, 2009 17:33
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On 2009-04-22 12:44, pipe&slippers wrote:
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On 2009-04-22 12:40, Xolvexs wrote:
...and full on still rules the crowds whatever u say





For example xolvexs likes full on, but I don't. Nothing wrong with that though, its what makes us different.






another interesting developement in the psychedelic music: some like fullOn, some like dark, some like progressive

does it make sense to focus on one of these genres as a producer? great artists like ocelot or Electrypnose focus on different styles... probably that is one of the reasons why their music remains on a constantly high level           We watch a monkey perform not because he is an artist, but a monkey performing

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Martian Arts

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Posted : Apr 22, 2009 17:50
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On 2009-04-22 17:33, sG4rY wrote:

does it make sense to focus on one of these genres as a producer? great artists like ocelot or Electrypnose focus on different styles... probably that is one of the reasons why their music remains on a constantly high level



Sense as in?
I think its simply down to people liking different things at any point in their lives.
Even if you eat your favourite dish every day, you'll grow sick of it if you don't change it up a little.
          
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