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pure Psytrance event at POLYTECHNEIOUPOLI on Sat 24/6/2006 (FREE entrance)
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virava
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Posted : Jun 21, 2006 21:45
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polytexneioupoli gathered 4000 people in some events the last two years,
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Sakiskimo
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Posted : Jun 21, 2006 21:50
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In thessalonikis party you have said before i was there and nothink happen in the area of the party it was in another area.If someone want to kick your ass and take something ho believe that is going to provide him money he can do it and when you are out of your club with no security garding your ass.
I think virava has understand the responsibility he have for the party. . .(and like i see it's going to be prive party for friends and ppl ho like this music and have nothink to do this day.)
And if he don't understand he will see. . .
Defently Argentina is going to kick Netherlands.
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SHIVAGIRLLOVE
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Posted : Jun 21, 2006 22:00
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plaka exi..so all parties there are not welcome from me cose im a student in lamia and i see that people do this things there for there own likings u all bring names like ELECTRIC Universe and ottokopler ANd u SAY THAT IS OK ...l
ook i have no promblem but because u started doing parties there it wont stop so who ever does its the 1st person that started the parties there fault..
so lots will do know...
so respect that not only when u do its ok and for others its not...i remember lots have supported parties there like the ELECTRIC universe party.which if i remeber on the net it was explosure records support.so every 1 has put there hand there.
so LET THIS GUYS DO THERE THING |
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errorhead
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Posted : Jun 21, 2006 22:15
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...Well the topic went wild in less than 24 hours.So i guess its a HOT issue concerning your reaction...
First of all,i dont think that virava&his fellas have an evil plan on his/their mind (as pinky&the brain)and to blame him is not the right thing,hes just wanna help propably, although doesnt know how to help...
Every party thats been held in a university area is FREE cause the place belongs to the people of this country(that doesnt mean though that anyone can do anything that pops up his mind just because its a asylum,Detox is right mentioning what happened in Thessaloniki,but dont forget detox that the party you talking about was held at a university area with money entrance so makes sense that some people got frustrated and mad for that move...)
Secondly,detox maked a good point,asulym is overused in a bad way since many harmfull things happened lately after the end or during the parties that were held,let me inform you for those who dont know that some nonthinking people are acting like criminals just because they re protected by the asylum,will focus on one of those incindents...Whats the fault after all of a common university guard who went to the hospital just because some people from the party as they went out to leave the area&the party, they smashed his face with no reason;that man has a family with two kids,whats his fault after all people?Hes just doing his job as we all trying to do...
..Another big issue is about destroying and vandalise the university area where the parties are held..
So the biggest issue that should be mentioned here is RESPECT!
Respect yourselfs as a first step and then respect what others have done for you...
So by attending a university area,no matter if a party is on or you just went to see a friend, you have to respect it.
So Peace,Love,Unity&RESPECT should be the motive for the universities parties at least since PLUR is not working anymore in clubs where this music is played.
Its more about the fame,the financial profit,and the ego rising of the organizers...
Parties in universities and the ideas&philosophy behind them are much more close to the old Psychedelic culture than parties on clubs with a high financial entrance,and im sure people feel this,even if not a big artist is performing and if dj nikos,dj sakis,dj noname is setting up..
It isnt about the names detox always, callin them wannabees isnt accurate,i thought of wannabees would have superwow killah names not just their greek name,cant get more simple than that...
Anyway..Its not just the music and the asylum,its a whole initiation beyond those parties...
Got bored from this long post myself here,hope you make something out of it...
Love&light
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virava
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Posted : Jun 21, 2006 22:27
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added Pantelis (boingVboing) in the line up for the party this Saturday
we ll enjoy him in the early sunday morning
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d_vision
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Posted : Jun 21, 2006 23:18
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Yeah this is our electronic scene here in Greece! Congrats guys, with all that you saying, you keep the scene in high level! (we have scene?)!Usually i'm not mixed in such discussions and i don't write something here in Greek topic, because the opinions of some persons here is the same all the time and this is so tedious!
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Good luck with this event, looks very good! Keep going guys...
Cheers
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Psyacoustics
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 01:22
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Hi ppl,what is going on here....?
First of all good luck to this event we will surelly b there.
University is a place of free education (and it must remain like this) it is also a place of free expression and developement of human thought and the music is part of it. It is indipendent of any political ideology, economic interest or religion.
Music is not necessary to be played in clubs with high entrance fee and espacially for the music we all love...oso pio anoixta oso pio dynata toso to kalytero..
That's what the parties held at polytexnioupoli offers to everyone, without being concerned for the way you look for the music you like and for what you smoke (protect the asylum!!!)
Incidents happens everywhere and sometimes they have deeper reasons behind them.
Violence is grown at the clubs while at the universities its being released and please dont tell us that security is controlling the areas peacefully there, because these ppl are completly out of the psychedelic culture and philosophy.In fact we still remember persons that were heavy violently abused and robbed just because they were smoking a spliff.(etsi gia na min ksexniomaste)
Anyway back to the topic,great events even with big artists and well known djs could be held at university areas as far the organisers does NOT THINK OF THE PROFIT.Such events have already happend in the electronic scene and not only(electric universe,joti)
MHPWS TELIKA TO PROBLHMA EINAI H KONOMA KAPOIWN?(Is the problem after all that someone has to make money?)
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DETOX
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 02:23
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On 2006-06-21 21:45, virava wrote:
polytexneioupoli gathered 4000 people in some events the last two years,
any club did not. (in greece)
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Maybe VIRAVA because there is no such big club in Greece hosting trance events?Or maybe the fact that clubs are not asylums and the authorities hunt down the owners that accept to host trance parties in their clubs?Comparing a free party with a club party is at least pointless in many aspects.Plus you forgot to mention that from the 4000 people that will participate in an event in a university at least half of them are not there for the music but for many and various reasons,i mean if it was a party with rock music most of these people would again be there to have a beer and have a pleasant and free night.So like i already said its pointless to make such comparisons.
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On 2006-06-21 22:00, SHIVAGIRLLOVE wrote:
i remember lots have supported parties there like the ELECTRIC universe party.which if i remeber on the net it was explosure records support.so every 1 has put there hand there.
so LET THIS GUYS DO THERE THING
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Dear SHIVAGIRLOVE first of all if you had read my previous posts you would have already understood why i helped in that event.First of all that was a special party not the usual local djs parties that take place every weekend,this was something special for the people and i offered my help with no profit at all,not even one penny.Secondly that day was very special for Athens for many political reasons that i wouldnt like to mention again in the forum,those that have a good memory and know some things know what i am talking about.So like i said YES to free parties that offer something special and that have a message to spread NO to free parties that have nothing to offer apart some personal satisfaction (and maybe some profit) to the people that organise and play in them.
ERRORHEAD some nice thoughs there,we mostly aggree on everything more or less and nice thing you mentioned the sad incident with the guard of the university that got injured,maybe some people will read about this incident and realise that hosting a free party is not so easy as it might seem.
PSYACOUSTICS i dont think that the profit is someones problem here (for sure not mine problem since i will never organise a party in a university and not because i cant but because i dont want to),after all noone can put an entrance fee in a university and organising an event there with international names is a big task with big expenses not easy covered by just the sales of beer and water.The problem here is that some people like me are against the exploitation of universities by people that mostly (and you cant take that out from my mind) organise events there because its easy,cheap,safe and because its a good opportunity for these people to satisfy their need to become a dj and feel how it is like to play music in front of 2000 people.If these people would make a party in a club,even a free party,noone would go there to see them but a free open air party in a university area during the summer time will attract a lot of people.I mean take for example your team,you did a party with Frank'e who is a huge artist in a club in Athens and what 100-150 people came there?And after you saw that its not easy to do parties in clubs you immediately planned the free party in the university last week which from the reviews i see had a lot of people.Anyway for me having every weekend trance parties in universities in Athens is something really bad that has to stop.
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virava
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 03:36
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i and you can make comparisons between clubs and universities because they are both possible places to play PSYTRANCE
according to your words i see many advantages on the universities "side"
anyway we could have organised this event in a nice open club at eyvoia but this place is much better! (for many reasons)
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electrojoseph82
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 12:27
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AHAHAHAHA.Nice topic it looks like the Gataka topic
in November.With the same people craping around.
All the Priministers are here again.Ahahahahahaha. |
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DETOX
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 13:21
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Virava universities are indeed possible places to play psytrance BUT under certain circumstances that according to my humble opinion your party (and many other parties by other people in the past) does not fullfill.I mean having a party in a university just for the fun of it (gia tin party mas like you said) is not a serious reason to exploit the asylum and the area of a sacred place like a university.Thats just me and my thoughts anyway,i still insist though that comparing club parties with free universities ones is not the same,its a different concept you see,same same but different like the english say heh.
By the way Electrojoseph,i dont think its nice to come in here and just laugh around and leave ironic comments for the people that participate in this discussion.If you got something constructive to say then please feel free to do it otherwise keep your mouth shut.I dont think that you would act like this in a personal conversation face to face would you?So keep the ahahahahaha for you friends.
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electrojoseph82
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 13:50
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Im so right again.
"Opoios exei tin miga - migiazetai".
Ahahahahahahaha. |
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DETOX
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 13:52
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As you wish dear Electrojoseph,as you wish...
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Psy_mystic
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 14:38
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RE KSEKOLATE LIGO REEEE!!!!
Detox what's the matter with you ?stop this sad bloody criticism mate! Mind your own business will u? people know that this is just business for you so let the ones who actually LOVE this music enjoy it without any fucking restrictions and rules ... we dont need you chat all these things, and after all WHY ARE U SO OBSESSED WITH THIS ? Sorry mate but as long as you dont feel this music the way we do please let us do our thing, dance together smoke together laugh together in a place where everyone is welcome ...
usaid :So like i said YES to free parties that offer something special and that have a message to spread NO to free parties that have nothing to offer apart some personal satisfaction (and maybe some profit) to the people that organise and play in them.
and im asking you : WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE judging if there is a message or not ?? A gathering of like minded people dancing showing that WE DONT FIVE A FUCK about your "society" and your "values" we have our own and we are JUST fine out of the herd ...its a pretty clear message imo .
This looks like harsh criticism I know but i couldn't stand your writings mate .You definetily got some ideas that you are ABSOLUTE about ...well guess what ?you might have gotten the whole thing wrong,cant you?
anywho....
I 'll see you all there
LOVE &LIGHT
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jimbo-madness
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 14:59
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Hey all......what we've got here ???...The capital starts to feel uncomfortable because ppl organise parties in a place which is free of fee and annoying security ppl ??.....Why Detox-bro started to be so annoyed with these parties ??.....Is it because as u said respect the constitution and the rest of us appeared to disrespect and destroy the area??Or all this happens because u r loosing your customers??In my opinion is the second one
Parties in Greece are very expensive.30 Euros almost always the entrance fee and if u want a second drink u have to pay 10 euros at least!!!! PPPP......Weed is not welcome in clubs, so we have to spend a small fortune for the drinks!!!!.....What makes u to believe that the most of us we have a wealthy backround and we are able to spend money easily? At least in politexneioupolh drinks are very cheap and the profit is very low or its almost unprofitable compare with your profit each time u have a party.
Something else is that parties in polutexneioupolh are outdoor and for us the ppl who have gone in festivals has almost the same feeling with the fests!!!!Also if someone has no money to buy something from the bar he/she can get something for free...in clubs doesnt exist that !!!
We feel very sorry if u can't control the ppl who wants to become part of this!!....like u are!!......I must tell u that u dont have the gift from the God for making parties.....For sure mate organise parties with famous djs but as it seems ppl prefer the free events.
However I read that u could have done a party with fee in the polutexneioupoli........I have to tell u that university is a free place and noone has the right to refuse the entrance........Same thing as I know did in Thessaloniki and really bad things happened there!!!
Thnx all for your time!!
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