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Psytrancer's @ home and @ the party

Astral699
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Posted : Jun 11, 2006 19:03
Hey i just thought about some subject (hope it hasn'n been disscused yet here )
I wonder how party people perceive psy music. Fans who listen to it at home and in clubs. Guys who goes to party at least hmmm...1 time a month i consider as party freaks and those who dont attend to parties or go very rarely as home freaks I was home listener for a very long time. Actualy i listen psytrance both at home and at the party and im pretty curious now how trancers react at what they hear at what place.
If buy almost every record or get it any way you can, you dont go to aprties and listen fullon, progressive, hard psy and whatever else at home you may perceive this music completly diferent then those who are in constant contact with psy in clubs. How is it in fact ? Do you think there is so huge diference ? I know that 95% of records released recently are just fine, or crap imo. But when i hear the same stuff at party i mostly change the opinion about it. It's pretty weird for me.
To sum up, my point is: what about people who hate party life and love kickass fast, energetic, melodic psy or good progressive ? No good records for them ? Nowadays i think albums are released mostly by reaction people on parties. If tracks works fine on dancefloor then they are gathered and rlsd on albums, which is from my point if view terrible mistake.
What you all think about it ?
maximjou
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Posted : Jun 11, 2006 20:50
well i have to say the party situation definetly influences
what you will like sometimes. because of such a good vibe its kinda hard not to like some tracks. and yes records are released mostly by reaction by people at partiees, thats just because producers want people to dance and like it , i think that aspect is good i think it lets dj or producers keep with the times and keep people dancing. i dont go to parties every week or every month i have no car. but its ok it allows me to save money, find music. and do something with my life.
exotic
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Posted : Jun 12, 2006 06:30
Well there are good home listening albums imo .. rare but they exist           missing plug-in
Shaqattack
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Posted : Jun 12, 2006 07:19
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On 2006-06-11 19:03, Astral699 wrote:
I know that 95% of records released recently are just fine, or crap imo. But when i hear the same stuff at party i mostly change the opinion about it. It's pretty weird for me.



thats a common phenomenon...its prolly the atmospehre that causes such a change...u seem to enjoy itr more..and once ur back home u still enjoy that track coz u get the same feeling as tho u were around the people..the thoughts remain in your head...so that particular track is gonna rock u for quite a while...!

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Nowadays i think albums are released mostly by reaction people on parties. If tracks works fine on dancefloor then they are gathered and rlsd on albums, which is from my point if view terrible mistake.
What you all think about it ?



damm i am not sure if that is true..if it is then its a horrible yardstick to determine the quality..especially if one is buying for home listening....hmm... not too sure if thats true coz many of the artists i feel dont release too much of the stuff they play....

for example...i went for a couple of neuromotors parties...and the music he played then was UNBELIVEBALE...no comparision havent heard such kind of energy in music since...but after that been hearing his music...its almost been 2 years and none of that magic (atelast for me) doenst appear in his releases....my view!

peacE           Why Worry?? BE.........HIPPIE
***Sideffect***
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Posted : Jun 12, 2006 07:33
you have a point imo, but that mechanism you describe is just because we are in a period morning fullon is the mainstream psychedelic trance now,
and fullon has always been more direction dancefloor then homelistening,
allthough they exist,

some good examples morning fullon for homelistening (doesn't mean I like them but I recognize it)

the misted muppet - from the legend
electric universe - comsic experience
u - recken (2006)
etic - feedback

and more off course, I can edit if you want but don't have the time now...

if you want more homelistening stuff I think progressive scores the highest in that factor,

antix, neelix and ect,

well my objective imo point not considering the artist I just mentioned is,

you have 2 different artist

1. who invent their own sound and bassline and release an album and each track is just that sound and bassline reformed, sometimes they use a bit other influences to create a higher level of psychedelic...
well if you love their sound it's a homelistening album for you but still although if you love it, after hearing the whole release you get bored...

2.
Are the rare ones, the artist who also create their sound and bassline but then try to achieve their own concept... meaning they don't stick to their reforming sound and bassline but use many influences like tribal, violins, piano, other psy sounds they create, little birds flying etc...
those are the ones who keep you busy all the time and create brain activity, on the dancefloor they will have the same succes as the first direction I mentioned cause people don't pay that much attention to detail (or just can't hear it because the soundsystem sucks or the dj's put the bass to loud), but at home they score big time, cause the level of variety is superhigh and the release goes into different directions which is great...
those are the ones who create atmosphere and sometimes achieve to tell a story by using trance...

conclusion
many artist choose direction one cause these days with all the software and hardware it's not that difficult anymore to reform, just creating your own sound and the bassline (bassline isn't that difficult anymore too...) so when that part is over creating a full album isn't that difficult anymore (if you see the explosion of releases there's no doubt), their always will be one or two good dance tracks on the album for dj's so...

an artist who visited belgium, not going to mention his name, he makes tracks in 5 minutes. He actually made a track in 5 minutes, and the track wasn't bad at all,and I'm sure it would work honderd procent on the dancefloor) but it's just pure reforming his earlier work... so then you notice once they pasted the parted of creating their own sound and bassline it's very easy to create more tracks...

the second direction is the direction not many artist choose, because it's like 100 times more work in creating and brainactivity, the more influences you use, the more danger you have everything doesn't fit anymore, but that's a challenge, and I respect the one who still dare to take that challenge...           http://www.last.fm/user/LastFmKoen
Astral699
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Posted : Jun 13, 2006 22:03
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On 2006-06-12 07:33, ***Sideffect*** wrote:

2.
Are the rare ones, the artist who also create their sound and bassline but then try to achieve their own concept... meaning they don't stick to their reforming sound and bassline but use many influences like tribal, violins, piano, other psy sounds they create, little birds flying etc...
those are the ones who keep you busy all the time and create brain activity, on the dancefloor they will have the same succes as the first direction I mentioned cause people don't pay that much attention to detail (or just can't hear it because the soundsystem sucks or the dj's put the bass to loud), but at home they score big time, cause the level of variety is superhigh and the release goes into different directions which is great...
those are the ones who create atmosphere and sometimes achieve to tell a story by using trance...





You are absolutely right about it. Its true indeed that in home on good soundsystem you are able to notice every detail, every sound in a track. On partie its often impossible or rather hardly noticeable coz of as you said to loud bass and probably more "party" efects. In the club its not a problem to make from any fullon track dancefloor HIT! But if one still enjoyes it at home for a long time, then its something special, with creativity and original idea for a song i think.

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