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Psytrance production tips : Effects

NikC
BeatNik

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Posted : Jan 14, 2006 13:38
Reverb, is my super super important effect. You can do so much with it...

But be subtle... having reverb tails mixing with eachother and also having them e.q.d badly only leads to a seriously muddy mix.

Use reverb intelligently to enhance the right sounds for the right places.           www.myspace.com/beat_nik
e-motion
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Posted : Jan 14, 2006 14:31
Bitcruncher on the master or any other channel also gives a good effect (automating the aliasing and keeping the bit depth at the max).
Psicho
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Posted : Jan 14, 2006 18:22
@orange: Thanks that's a cool effect Anyway I would ask you the order of the effects and what vst do u use? (I have Ableton and seems that the internal vst don't have the requested parameters)

@e-motion: what is bitcruncher and what it does? Can you give some parameters of your tweak please?           --
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EYB
Noized

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Posted : Jan 14, 2006 18:28
a bitcrucher reduces the bits of an sample, so it gets lofied - e.g before 16 bit sample after bitcrucher less e.g 8 bit or 7 bit or any number of bits between 1 and 16

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orange
Fat Data

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Posted : Jan 14, 2006 19:12
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On 2006-01-14 18:22, Psicho wrote:
@orange: Thanks that's a cool effect Anyway I would ask you the order of the effects and what vst do u use? (I have Ableton and seems that the internal vst don't have the requested parameters)

@e-motion: what is bitcruncher and what it does? Can you give some parameters of your tweak please?






the order is as i allredy wrote
filter+flanger+reverb+stereo expander

i used free plugz for this effect
karma fx filter
karma fx reverb
fruity flangus
fruity stereo enhancer
and all is done in fl6

orange           http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
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NikC
BeatNik

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Posted : Jan 14, 2006 22:52
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@e-motion: what is bitcruncher and what it does? Can you give some parameters of your tweak please?




The bitcrusher is included with cubase in the 'other' section of the VST menu.

The way it works is by reducing the bit depth by the value specified... so division by one 2 3 4 etc...
Can lead to some seriously interesting effects if you use it on the right initial sounds, including formant-like sounds (because of the Nyquist Theorem)           www.myspace.com/beat_nik
Psicho
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Posted : Jan 14, 2006 23:06
I suppose that in Ableton that should be Bitreducer..

Anyway how does the tweak work? Where do you usually put it?           --
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NikC
BeatNik

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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 01:40
Play with it and find out...
Realise the sound you like instead of us telling you what to do with it!           www.myspace.com/beat_nik
Psicho
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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 02:46
@nikc: as I said before I am creating a tips database and I am just asking for some detailed informations. (I will give the website url in the next weeks)

I know I can just play and find out but I cannot explain what is really happening and why is happening..           --
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NikC
BeatNik

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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 03:13
ah.. heh

Well... a couple of commonly used bitcrusher examples:

1. BitCrusher over highpassed kick and bass - gradual automation of bit depth creates an ascending or descending pitch as the sound becomes either more or less destroyed

2. BitCrusher over whole mix - does the same as above except includes all sounds.

3. BitCrusher on leads - adds very digital sounding grain and accentuates and 'crispens' highs if on mode I or III, and dulls the highs while making the sound muddier/grainier with settings II or IV

4. (is my little secret )
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EYB
Noized

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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 03:13
Delays are cool man            Signature
NikC
BeatNik

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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 03:14
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On 2006-01-15 03:13, EYB wrote:
Delays are cool man




Agreed...

pitch bent delays, distorted delays, ping-pong delays, hi/lowpassed delays, increasing resonance delays, LFO'd delays... They're all in there somewhere           www.myspace.com/beat_nik
EYB
Noized

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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 03:15
Good summery of delay possebilities

Flanger on samples or synths is also killa!
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NikC
BeatNik

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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 03:26
Quote:

On 2006-01-15 03:15, EYB wrote:
Good summery of delay possebilities

Flanger on samples or synths is also killa!





MetaFlanger is suuuupah! - automating feedback width and mix can also lead to some tremendous (but none the less indescribeable) results...

Btw forgot to mention in delays list:
Reverb feedback delays,
Band Passed delays,
'bouncing ball' delays (think they're called that - where the echo gets quicker and quicker)
Reverse delays
Reverbed delays

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robomarket
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Posted : Jan 16, 2006 07:47
Get a sample and fade it in so it becomes one of those "transition" samples used to introduce a change in a track.

Get the same sample without the fadein. Reverse, make it one note lower and than fade it out. Than insert silences on several locations so that the sample has sort of "chopped up" effect.

Put some reverb and chorus on it and you have a really nifty transition sound.
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