Psytrance music creation!! HELP! :(

On 2004-10-04 02:37, PsyGoatDelic wrote:
of what i know from many people here... FL is much easy than most of softs... but if u allready started with another then dont bother to change...

whats next... u asked... what ever is on ur mind!
every thing! leads (melody) hihats effects (speciall effects, pannings sweeps swirls etc etc)
work ur mind...

its hard! i know... trying to do it myself without much luck.. but i keep trying!
im enjoing tweaking new sounds and exploring synths... and just making loops of kicks basslines some leads and some fx...

try to enjoy it and not to feel bad about it...

On 2004-10-04 09:45, Qualium wrote:
Well, so you come up with your bassline, bass drum and a few layers of percussion groove (hihats, snare,cymbal, ride toms or whatever you prefer).

Try this if you like - stick them on loop and look for a motif, that is, a little bit of interesting sound to play over them. It might be just a single note, percussion hit, atmospheric, or tweaky, trippy sort of thing, or it might be two or three of them in a basic sequence. If you do a sequence, you might try doing them in a rhythm that isn't too 'square' - so space them out in irregular intervals, say two steps and then three steps difference, or a multiple of these. Chances are it'll give the loop a bit of funkiness or something. Make sure it fits in with the basic loop, and if it doesn't, just shift your motif around a little to make sure it does. Just feel the music. Don't make it too complex though, or you could easily confuse yourself.

Once you manage this, add it to your loop and repeat this process with another sound.

Now of course it gets a fair bit more complex than this, but it can be useful to think of your tracks as a bunch of layered loops of varying length - most typically in multiples of 2. So 1 step, 2 steps, 1 beat, 2 beats, 1 bar, 2 bars, 4, 8, 16, etc. Of course there can be irregularities - indeed that's where a lot of really interesting stuff comes from, but it's probably better to move from order to chaos than the other way round.

These loops can themselves be dropped in and out and warped with effects, and developed with variations on their themes, be made to 'converse' with each other, eventually building toward a full length track, but worry about that later.

See how you go with these first suggestions to begin with (if they help at all - I don't know if I've made any sense to you). I'm not yet a master of the art myself, but these ideas are vaguely what I tend to do in my own music making.

On 2004-10-06 23:00, Anakoluth wrote:
try to make songs in your head first, then in the sequencer. open your mind and the rest will follow, someone said in the forum once. concentrate on music first and not on sound. experiment a lot. build some sort of a story. this way you wont just make tunes, you will create art...

but it aint that easy, i see it at myself.