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Psytrance in Csound - A Tutorial
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rodneon
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Posted : Jan 14, 2008 00:02
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I've shared my thoughts about using Csound for trance production in this forum before -- more specifically, in the Mother of All Kick Drums thread. Now I'm taking it a step further: I'm going to try making a full-length psytrance track entirely in Csound and I'm documenting my progress on my blog.
In fact, it would be fun to make this a collaborative effort. If you know Csound or would like to learn more about it, or if you just want to be part of this fun little project, check out my blog at http://joesprojectblog.blogspot.com
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UnderTow
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Posted : Jan 14, 2008 00:22
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rodneon: You are mad. But in a good way.
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Posted : Jan 14, 2008 00:39
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Tomos
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Posted : Jan 14, 2008 00:47
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That's so hardcore I can only watch in amazement.
Good job man! One suggestion - if it doesn't come together in the next 10-12 years, try a sequencer
Post a sample of a Csound coded kick'n'bass ?
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sonik_akb
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Posted : Jan 14, 2008 17:39
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Last year I spent more time making sound design (and less producing tracks) and got a lot of cool sounds. Rodneon, I think you'll make a great move if you can explore CSound (or another tool like it, like SuperCollider or Metasynth) in order to come up with new fresh sounds using all the potential from this tool (like spectral and granular synthesis). You could generate a lot of samples wav (24 bits) and build your own sound's library.
However, I think you shouldn't use CSound for sequencing/arranging tracks. There are other tools (including free) for that. Put your efforts in order to make sounds different than those commomly used on psy (overused metallic virtual analog sounds/FM aggressive leads). There is an avenue for that: think use spectral/convolutional/granular tools for making textures and sounds who no one else has on psy.
And consider to get this book:
The Csound Book
Perspectives in Software Synthesis, Sound Design,
Signal Processing and Programming
Edited by Richard Boulanger
Foreword by Barry Vercoe
Preface by Max Mathews
32 Chapters from the top Sound Designers and Programmers of the world. 45 CD-ROM Chapters. 2 CD-ROMS.
$55.00
LINK: http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/csound/frontpage.html
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rodneon
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Posted : Jan 15, 2008 03:27
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I really just wanted a challenge, and I figured people would think I'm crazy. However, there is a more practical, more user-friendly way to use Csound. There's a Java-based tool called Blue that turns Csound into a "regular" sequencer. I might end up resorting to Blue to arrange the track, but I prefer coding my sound design the old-fashioned way. I'm new to Csound and I thought this would be a good way to learn more about it. I haven't even tapped into the more esoteric capabilities like waveguides and granular synthesis, but I'll get there -- hopefully by the end of this track.
UnderTow... BT is mad, I'm just mildly crazy He created "All That Makes Us Human Continues" from his latest album entirely in Csound. It took him over a year to finish it. If you've heard it, you know he's completely insane.
Sonik_akb... I should look into getting the Csound Book. |
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Seppa
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Posted : Jan 15, 2008 13:05
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That is really interesting...
I'm sure something interesting could come out of that.
I'm looking forward to seeing your csound project take shape.
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rodneon
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Posted : Jan 16, 2008 18:36
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I've added sound samples and zip files with the Csound code and WAV rendering of each section. Please post your comments on the blog. Let me know what you think!
Next: hi-hat, snare, clap... still working out the bugs. |
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Posted : Jan 17, 2008 10:56
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That's a very challenging idea
I really hope you make it, then you'll be on the guiness' records for making it
  Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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minim
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Posted : Jan 18, 2008 19:58
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luciddistortion
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Posted : Feb 3, 2008 20:11
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I'm very curious to see your progress on this project. I used to work with Csound in school and a little bit in my own time. My attempts to make psytrance using csound ended up in just making a kick and bass sound which, although not mastered for the dancefloor, were clean, crisp and elegant. Since the scoring system in Csound is a little bit... hit or miss... depending on your tastes, you might want to try mixing Python with Csound. It's an easy language to learn and it fits well with Csound. There are also other audio languages that are interesting, like ChucK, which uses some unique concepts but has a lot more traditional programming functionalities (like loops and conditional statements). It could make an interesting composition/synthesis environment. |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 01:17
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