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Psykovsky Faking Live set at Lost Theory :(
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full_on
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Posted : Sep 8, 2013 23:33
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The idea is that you don't need Live Acts to have an outstanding party. However, the money seems to be in parties with 4+ Live Acts in the line up, regardless of the actual quality of the music or the "liveness" of the Live Act.
I like and support artists, but having 4+ Live Acts in the parties is not necessarily the best way to go, specially when we consider the subject of this topic... Each of these four Live Acts would have their own thread here, discussing how they fake it...
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Xamanist
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Posted : Sep 9, 2013 20:23
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I agree you don't need Live Acts or an explicit lineup or even to know where the dj stage is to have a great party.
But I think that is valid for someone to enjoy 1h-2h of the music of a producer in a party.
We connect in a special way with the music some producers make, we have our "favourites"...
So why not having them showcasing their music at a party, with special sets and transitions pre-made, as their own strength and skill is producing?
It would be valid for me, as long as nobody is faking anything and care is put in the creation of every set as a special experience.
It is also very good for the producers, who can spread their music directly to an audience, feel their feedback, improve and also, if that's the case, earn some deserved money for their effort in music making.
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OzMike
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 03:00
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I think in the end ppl just want to know that when they go to a show they see something unique. Whether it's manipulating on the fly, playing unreleased tracks or remixes, dj'ing or playing a melody live over the top.
When I go see a band perform & they interacts between songs with the crowd or you hear the minor mistakes they make aging I enjoy that. Or they do an extended solo or a drum solo etc. It shows that they are human performers that make mistake but also have the talent to do something unique that most of us can't.
I can play my Psykovsky or GMS or whatever CD anywhere, but if I'm seeing the. Live I want to see something with at least small amount of WOW factor.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 03:32
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the hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me.
so as some here say, its cool to pay money for a party, and have the organizers pay for a dj, who does totally nothing, presses play on a cdj and dances like an idiot, and it isn't even his own tracks, and i would say in most cases aren't even legit payed copies of the tracks.
but when a guy plays HIS OWN FREAKING HARD WORK of music, then oh, he should like, press his play on a controller and stuff and not on a cdj cause that is cool and otherwise he is a douche cause he is a faker.
talk about an absurd double standard. LOL
and yeah colin, lol at you too with your bla bla bla about oood live. YOU GUYS ARE THREE PEOPLE, you better come up with something at least semi live or you would have to come up with some coordinated dancing or something, cause hey, you need to milk the festival cash cow somehow right, must keep up that mantra that what you do is live, cause omg what will they pay you if they don't see your triggering stuff as live? nice to talk all high and mighty, when you forget we are mostly talking here about one guy acts playing small doofs with little or no cash rewards.
and to the rest of you - really if i was psykovsky i would be laughing my ass off right now, such nice free promotion, who could ask for better 
and with this i am officially leaving this topic for all you other vultures, popcorn on me, have fun.
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full_on
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 03:48
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On 2013-09-10 03:32, faxinadu wrote:
you would have to come up with some coordinated dancing or something
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Colin, I'll pay twice the price of the tickets to see that. Triple it if it's advertised on the flyer.
Rlx, Fax.
It's totally OK to have Live Acts at parties, but it is not mandatory.
And it is desirable that artist and DJs at parties should be honest and not mediocre. That means no faking.
Of course, there is a lot of shit going on in this scene since it's beginnings. Who never saw a DJ or artist so stoned that he could not play? Faking it is the same, except that you're on stage...
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 03:52
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 04:19
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We all agree on that. 
But I'd still pay double to see OOOD doing the Gangnam Style live!
Also Xamanist above has a point. Many times I attend to my favorite artist's Live Acts not because it would be LIVE, but because he is going to play his own tracks which are my favorite music to dance! 
In general I care much more about what is coming out of the speakers than about what's happening on the stage.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 04:37
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OzMike
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 05:12
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Look, just cut the crap and stop falsely advertising live performances when it's just a dude on stage.
Just don't put live or dj next to the name if they plan to play the same music I can get on a cd or download.
It false advertising and quite frankly it's a crock of pure bullshit.
In any other professional industry you'd be out of your job & back on the dole where you belong.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 05:17
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OzMike
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 06:38
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Yeah it's a pointless argument I know. We've had our say.
I still like the idea that when my modular system is built I'd love to take it on stage and do some live noodling for the freaks
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 16:33
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On 2013-09-10 05:12, OzMike wrote:
Look, just cut the crap and stop falsely advertising live performances when it's just a dude on stage.
Just don't put live or dj next to the name if they plan to play the same music I can get on a cd or download.
It false advertising and quite frankly it's a crock of pure bullshit.
In any other professional industry you'd be out of your job & back on the dole where you belong.
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This, and only this, and not the fake argument that Faxi makes but which no-one is actually putting forward. I don't care what you do, but if you're telling me it's 'live' then you'd better be doing something live otherwise you're a liar.
BTW Faxi, if you're going to try and be offensive to me at least get your facts right. There are four of us in OOOD, not three, and we are a long way away from 'milking the cash cow'; we've played outside the UK once since July 2012. We headlined a UK festival last weekend and after expenses I took home £20. But please, keep on putting false arguments into my mouth and getting your facts wrong, it's entertaining and the only person you are embarrassing is yourself.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 18:33
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four people calls for hiring a choreographer, this is some complex stuff. i still think your comments are off based on that fact that you are multiple people and it is a whole other story compared to one person acts.
ok on a serious note, touche fair enough, point taken about that 20e and festivals comment, i will find some other way to offend you
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 18:40
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i want to add one last thing that is relevant to israel and maybe some other countries.
this summer we had a very big percent of parties closed by cops. now not getting into who is at fault and why this is happening, there is no way i am bringing my gear to the middle of the desert with cash that may or may not be payed and may or may not even cover gas just to have things confiscated by cops, stolen, broken or whatever.
if/when i'm booked to tomorrowland i'll get some pads and put dbglitch on everything so everyone can be happy.
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 22:35
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On 2013-09-06 22:52, soospicey wrote:
without live acts the DJ's will be non-existant, except for the ones that play the top 100's
if live acts dont get booked they will eventually stop making the music. because we all know how well the music actually sells nowadays
the rise of the live acts follows with the decline in people actually buying music
DJ's included
and now comes the onslaught of DJ's commenting about how they buy all the music they play....
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That is not true at all! The "dj" has been promoting the said "live" act for over a 100 years now… The "dj" was the one who gave the "live act" the idea to produce dance music back in the late 50's to late 60's when they would mix beats with "Musique concrete" and later "krautrock". Before the computer software became stupid friendly. allowing any dope stick to produce "live" music, the dj was the one who paved the path for said live act to be known.
Most "live acts" are boring, very predictable, cant even mix. Best live acts have been the ones who can actually dj without a DAW. Back in the day, it wasn't about getting paid, it was about having a great experience, then came the "live act" demanding excessive funds. Everyone owns a computer and its easy to get software to make beats. The golden days, the artist had to seek out hardware and actually have knowledge of music. Today you just go to any curb market to buy your midi controller and copy paste everyone else's ideas and boom your a "live act".
From what i've heard, Psykovsky's sets were less fake a few years ago when he would run his pre-made cubase "live" set and mix cd's with it. I've seen this clown once and i must say after the first hour of his set, you will hear everything he has to offer. It would be a much better dance party if promoters would stop booking him for 8-12 hours. just book him for 2 hours, stop feeding the ego and get some dj's on the bill. |
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