Psykovsky Faking Live set at Lost Theory :(

On 2013-09-02 14:34, randulon wrote:
Who cares whether he plays live or not? Either way it still sounds like total **** to me. I'm not familiar with the music of Ocelot Aaron but I have to agree with him when he talks of the adoring, fawning acolytes of this "genius". His music sounds cheap. And his fans deluded by the Emperor's new clothes.

As for live sets? Why bother? They generally sound **** and the parties were much better when it was fewer DJs playing longer sets. It is ridiculous, in my eyes, when you go to festivals or parties nowadays and most acts have 90 minutes at the most to get into, over and out of their, and the crowd's, groove. Not that I advocate 12 ego trip DJ sets by the likes of Goa Gil either...

On 2013-08-19 10:57, OzMike wrote:
In 17 years of listening to electronic music I'm yet to hear a GMS track that is interesting or psychedelic.

Pure hyped crap IMHO.

Oh but they're responsible for full on or something you say.

Well look where full on has got this scene!! Seriously??

All GMS did was ruin everything for everyone.

On 2013-08-29 19:48, Drakon Psy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myb_w0xBjnU

On 2013-09-02 15:42, OzMike wrote:
Not the slightest bit angry at all. I just enjoy reading ppl and the using their opinions to get a reaction. It's very easy in really life but more of a challenge online, though after trolling for 15 years it's gotten easier.

It's kind of a form of end of day stress reliever for me, because I don't necessarily believe the Internet to be serious or necessarily true. I wish other ppl wouldn't take things so seriously.

Thanks for quoting me, it always makes one feel almost loved to be quoted by some random on the Internet


xoxo Ozmike

On 2013-09-02 17:00, Xamanist wrote:
I think we all agree that ego trips have nothing to do with the trance dance experience... So why promote a lineup with "LiveAct" or "Live" or "Dj Set"?
People interested in dancing don't care about how the music is being broadcasted and people interested about music making know if X is a DJ or a producer.
This labels IMO are not needed at a party, and only bring ego and confusion.

So what a producer should do live? I think a lot about this, and I think is all about what the producer want from the experience of playing live.

1. Showcase your music. Your music is a special trip, one that you created with a lot of care and inspiration. Arrange a new set when you want to, improve the experience you provide, play it to the crowds and enjoy the music with them, connect... there's nothing ugly about this.

2. Play as live as you want. This requires effort, qualities, risk, but mostly willing to have a diferent kind of fun/connection with the crowd (not looking for a higher kind of respect).
Of course this is a diferent kind of musical experience, because you'll miss some details of your music but connect with the crowd with a diferent kind of adrenaline that only live music creates.

For me this is a very dificult choice. For a few years I've been performing live, mixing every sound and every beat of my tracks live and playing the guitar parts.
It's great fun, of course takes a lot of work and concentration and gives a diferent kind of experience to whomever is aware that I'm releasing every sound one by one.
On the other hand, as a dance experience, my music is not so perfect, detailed and maybe not so mindblowing and capable of lifting up the dancers...

So it all comes down to this: do you want to give the crowd the best dance experience possible or to have the pleasure of playing live and connect on a diferent level with the few people that are aware of what you are doing?

Answer yourself

On 2013-09-02 17:00, Xamanist wrote:
People interested in dancing don't care about how the music is being broadcasted

On 2013-09-02 19:13, Colin OOOD wrote:

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On 2013-09-02 17:00, Xamanist wrote: People interested in dancing don't care about how the music is being broadcasted

I agree. But just because they don't care how you're actually doing it doesn't mean they don't care if you lie to them about it. They still get pissed off if they find out that what they were told was happening, wasn't. People interested in dancing - especially people interested in trance dancing, moving meditation or whatever you want to call it that is supposed to be the whole point of the psytrance movement - care more about integrity than they care about the mechanics of music performance. You can tell them anything, and as long as they think it's true, all is good.

On 2013-09-02 19:13, Colin OOOD wrote:

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On 2013-09-02 17:00, Xamanist wrote: People interested in dancing don't care about how the music is being broadcasted

I agree. But just because they don't care how you're actually doing it doesn't mean they don't care if you lie to them about it. They still get pissed off if they find out that what they were told was happening, wasn't. People interested in dancing - especially people interested in trance dancing, moving meditation or whatever you want to call it that is supposed to be the whole point of the psytrance movement - care more about integrity than they care about the mechanics of music performance. You can tell them anything, and as long as they think it's true, all is good. But if they find out you're treating them like fools then they'll lose respect for you, just like I lost respect for the major-player artist who stole my bandmate's hash backstage at a festival, and then hung out with us for hours afterwards, skinning up furtively with a large lump of hash he didn't have before. Eventually I asked him - very politely and non-confrontationally - if he had anything we could skin up with because ours had gone missing, and after a few seconds of intense eye-contact he grudgingly gave me 3/4 of what he had left of what he'd stolen. I haven't spoken to him since.

[e] his performance at that festival was fake too, although he did make a bit of effort with edits on the wavs he was playing.

On 2013-09-02 20:03, vector_0 wrote:

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On 2013-09-02 19:13, Colin OOOD wrote: Quote: On 2013-09-02 17:00, Xamanist wrote: People interested in dancing don't care about how the music is being broadcasted I agree. But just because they don't care how you're actually doing it doesn't mean they don't care if you lie to them about it. They still get pissed off if they find out that what they were told was happening, wasn't. People interested in dancing - especially people interested in trance dancing, moving meditation or whatever you want to call it that is supposed to be the whole point of the psytrance movement - care more about integrity than they care about the mechanics of music performance. You can tell them anything, and as long as they think it's true, all is good. But if they find out you're treating them like fools then they'll lose respect for you, just like I lost respect for the major-player artist who stole my bandmate's hash backstage at a festival, and then hung out with us for hours afterwards, skinning up furtively with a large lump of hash he didn't have before. Eventually I asked him - very politely and non-confrontationally - if he had anything we could skin up with because ours had gone missing, and after a few seconds of intense eye-contact he grudgingly gave me 3/4 of what he had left of what he'd stolen. I haven't spoken to him since. [e] his performance at that festival was fake too, although he did make a bit of effort with edits on the wavs he was playing.

without a name this post is pointless

On 2013-09-02 17:00, Xamanist wrote:
just like I lost respect for the major-player artist who stole my bandmate's hash backstage at a festival, and then hung out with us for hours afterwards, skinning up furtively with a large lump of hash he didn't have before.