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Posted : Aug 11, 2011 14:21
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On 2011-08-11 05:06, PoM wrote:
not sure, we have to feel the infra bass massage our neurons it s not only about hearing .
damn i m listening some old transwave ,dunno if it s only me but today full on barely make me move my feets but when i hear some good goa i have a hard time to stick in place lol their is just so much energy . just a kick a good bassline it s sound more groovy than everyhting we hear today..i think it s getting everyhting linear and robotic with no drift ,no dynamic, it killed all the groove.
I do not agree at all. I think its only a matter of taste, for me goa is very boring. Nothing is happening, and often its the same kind of slow sweeping melodic lead which carry on the whole song.
There is bad and good music, for me id say this is when the psy trance have really gotten in its place. Sure psy trance is not what it used to be, its better!. Its more developed, the possibility is greater.
maybe you re right it s about taste today kbbb i find it a bit boring.
nothing is hapening i find it strange you say that, in 1 goa track it hapen as much as in one full on album , i exagerate a little there is also a a lot less creativity in today full on sound imo.listen the stuff released on nano for example it s good full on but it fall short in creativty compared to what guys like simon posford, beat agency and the list is long did in the past.
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Posted : Aug 11, 2011 15:38
some bollocks.
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Posted : Aug 11, 2011 16:07
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On 2011-08-11 05:06, PoM wrote:
damn i m listening some old transwave ,dunno if it s only me but today full on barely make me move my feets but when i hear some good goa i have a hard time to stick in place lol their is just so much energy . just a kick a good bassline it s sound more groovy than everyhting we hear today..i think it s getting everyhting linear and robotic with no drift ,no dynamic, it killed all the groove.
agreed 100%. even my fullon-loving friends found GNOTR (even the old tracks with mediocre production quality) at this year's ozora much more driving than the (harder and faster) twilight/dark psy that came afterwards.
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Posted : Aug 11, 2011 22:48
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Very old track but a hit at his time for sure . Today (2011) Can tell you that theres nothing special (For me) in this track or that kind of music . You cant compare those tunes from the far past to the open sound of today (technology) This is totaly an deferent things . Must say today this track sound realy boring and dry in all the parameters .
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Posted : Aug 12, 2011 02:34
goa has that authentic spiritual feel to me.. like it was made by gurus. today's psy can have that feeling but it's rare.
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Posted : Aug 12, 2011 11:10
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On 2011-08-11 10:18, Grevinsky wrote:
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On 2011-08-11 05:06, PoM wrote:
not sure, we have to feel the infra bass massage our neurons it s not only about hearing .
damn i m listening some old transwave ,dunno if it s only me but today full on barely make me move my feets but when i hear some good goa i have a hard time to stick in place lol their is just so much energy . just a kick a good bassline it s sound more groovy than everyhting we hear today..i think it s getting everyhting linear and robotic with no drift ,no dynamic, it killed all the groove.
I do not agree at all. I think its only a matter of taste, for me goa is very boring. Nothing is happening, and often its the same kind of slow sweeping melodic lead which carry on the whole song.
There is bad and good music, for me id say this is when the psy trance have really gotten in its place. Sure psy trance is not what it used to be, its better!. Its more developed, the possibility is greater.
maybe you re right it s about taste today kbbb i find it a bit boring.
nothing is hapening i find it strange you say that, in 1 goa track it hapen as much as in one full on album , i exagerate a little there is also a a lot less creativity in today full on sound imo.listen the stuff released on nano for example it s good full on but it fall short in creativty compared to what guys like simon posford, beat agency and the list is long did in the past.
Sure i can agree with that. I dont listen to full on so i cant really compare there.
I never listened to goa, so for my goa untrained ears i really cannot see the charm in it but i think A LOT of people is just nostalgic, associating feeling/memory's of old times trough the music.
I guess it always been hard to find real good musicians just that the more you get in too the music the more you actually realize whats good and not.
I give you a song which i consider as very psychedelic and creatively designed. Good psy is still out there its not a myth! .
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Posted : Aug 12, 2011 16:17
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I never listened to goa, so for my goa untrained ears i really cannot see the charm in it but i think A LOT of people is just nostalgic, associating feeling/memory's of old times trough the music.
i don't think so. i guess most goa heads (including me and those i know) haven't been around back then. so for us goa is rather something fresh and exciting compared to the same old fullon/progressive/darkpsy.
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Posted : Aug 12, 2011 16:40
Grevinsky yes nice tune ! it s not full on like you said, was more talking about the full on sound.
about the goa it s not only nostalgie it s a different kind of music .
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Posted : Aug 13, 2011 00:59
To clarify i did not mean that all people who listen to goa just like it because of nostalgia, its just that i met alot of conservative goa listeners which want to remain in the times of the 90´s and judge strongly any new music( i do not say this is you, its just general my experience). For sure its another kind of trance music.
With fullon i totaly agree with you, and even tho i like progressive i have to say it can be the same case there.
I think possibly because the accessibility, the price(for them who download, completely free), developed methods(easier to begin), most arent as dedicated now as before. The more comfortable we get the more lazy we get, because of that, more mediocre and less creative artists.
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Posted : Aug 13, 2011 18:18
In my opinion this is a matter of taste, goa is more organic, has more melody and mind power, full on is more digital and clean and has more fisical power.
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Posted : Aug 13, 2011 19:31
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goa has that authentic spiritual feel to me.. like it was made by gurus.
I agree. Regular psytrance in these days is overrated (and ugly too), people think anyone can make psy. But goa* back then was a "myth" to "foreign" people, and by this i mean, those who loved goa and still do felt much more connected with other people that loved it too.
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Posted : Aug 21, 2011 12:10
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In this track, starting from 3.30 and although I listen to it on 10cm-Speakers, there is a little bit of subwoofer-athmosphere! Its the work of a genius, imo.
You can cut your lower frequency limit in half with a psychoacoustic effect: Lets assume, you have a bass sound of 60 hz, consisting of signals with 60hz, 120 hz, 180hz and 240hz. Your psychoacoustic effect ads 90hz, 150hz and 210hz - and your brain completes it by adding the missing 30hz signal - although your speakers can't reproduce a 30 hz signal!
This actually works very well, if you simply do the following you notice a difference:
Lets say you have a bass in D1(36Hz), because we usually Hi Pass the bass at arround 25/35Hz to avoid rumble in the low end, this D1(36Hz) will have no power, but if we use a sharp Q to boost the bass in between D1(36Hz) and D2(73Hz) and sweep that Q in between this 2 freq. we will find a spot that will noticeably make the bass very low and clear, this is our brain acurately creating the D1(36Hz) that we previously hipassed to avoid rumble, now in theory you would imediatley boost A(55Hz) because is right in the centre but that doesnt allways work so try sweeping beteewn freq. until you find the sweet spot that makes your brain vibrate lol.
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This actually works very well, if you simply do the following you notice a difference:
Lets say you have a bass in D1(36Hz), because we usually Hi Pass the bass at arround 25/35Hz to avoid rumble in the low end, this D1(36Hz) will have no power, but if we use a sharp Q to boost the bass in between D1(36Hz) and D2(73Hz) and sweep that Q in between this 2 freq. we will find a spot that will noticeably make the bass very low and clear, this is our brain acurately creating the D1(36Hz) that we previously hipassed to avoid rumble, now in theory you would imediatley boost A(55Hz) because is right in the centre but that doesnt allways work so try sweeping beteewn freq. until you find the sweet spot that makes your brain vibrate lol.
