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Psychedelic Village (Open Source permanent Psy Venue) ;)
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6ateless6ate
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 00:34:08
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Ok, here's an idea...
Looking for like-minded terrestrials=))
To create an open-source permanent psychedelic base.=)
- Get a land somewhere in a western part . For cost's and weather sake=) In those areas you can easily find off-the grid land for as low as $200/acre(from full blown desert with nobody around for miles to the forest jungle). Round Mountain in Shasta, CA comes to mind...=)) The off-grid properties tend to be the cheapest(and eco friendly - not feeding the death spiral of a power grid). Furthermore it can be used by number of people as a year-round residence of a kind. As it will be self sufficient in terms of utilities (solar, wind, WVO etc) and rent to worry about .
- So if, lets say, get a decent peace of land around 10 acres (prices from 1.5K and up) , which is plentiful to not disturb nor be disturbed=))
- As you dont have to rent place every time you would have more resources/ energy to concentrate on a grow of a venue(not taking down and starting from scratch again). Funds raised from an event would mostly go towards the development of new parties and to directly benefit the community (as Boom Fest did).
- Incorporating a non-profit organization to protect yourself from personal liability and make easier to deal with authorities. And as a demonstration of a good will. A nonprofit organization is an organization that does not distribute its surplus funds to owners or shareholders, but instead uses them to help pursue its goals.
Sure there is a lot of things to consider. That is why I bringing it up to the discussion of a community.
Psy Trance needs a home=))))
Your opinions Please ,
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6ateless6ate
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 01:07
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- Get a land somewhere in a western part . For cost's and weather sake=) In those areas you can easily find off-the grid land for as low as $200/acre(from full blown desert with nobody around for miles to the forest jungle).
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Well, not necessarily West , anywhere where it is feasible . |
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AumShantiAum
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 01:16
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I like the idea.
but there are many things to consider. First of all you need to find ppl to invest. Im sure there also annual property taxes to pay. If youre using the land for just events im sure there will also be all kinds of permits and legal nonsense.
great idea just seems somewhat difficult to pull off
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Azamat Bagatov
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 01:34
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sick idea..
anything possible.. need to find "ppl to invest" |
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 01:34
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I would be willing to invest, but only if there's a responsibility-sharing contract signed by all participating members, drawn up by a lawyer.
Also the location would have to be heavily discussed. Buying out west is cheap but you have to think about people's willingness to get out all that way to the first few parties, which would probably be small, haphazard and relatively disorganized and shitty (simply the way it goes for a promotional venture just starting out) not to mention a financial loss.
But it has to start somewhere.
The best option overall would be somewhere centrally located and towards the south for an extended warm season, and near an airport so people would be able to fly in easily and cheaply. |
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6ateless6ate
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 01:43
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On 2009-10-27 01:16, AumShantiAum wrote:
I like the idea.
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Im sure there also annual property taxes to pay.
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Annual tax on land is pretty low especially in off-the-grid places. Could be somewhere around a hundred or so+ -. As for a property tax thats another story but around a percent of property...so 10 times less than apartment rent...and also there is sometimes tax exemption for nonprofit.
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If youre using the land for just events im sure there will also be all kinds of permits and legal nonsense.
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Most likely yeah...but watching others experience of throwing Fest as a non-prof tends to easy a bunch talks for permits. As it will be for a legit Arts Fest.
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6ateless6ate
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 02:10
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On 2009-10-27 01:34, Axis Mundi wrote:
I would be willing to invest, but only if there's a responsibility-sharing contract signed by all participating members, drawn up by a lawyer.
Also the location would have to be heavily discussed. Buying out west is cheap but you have to think about people's willingness to get out all that way to the first few parties, which would probably be small, haphazard and relatively disorganized and shitty (simply the way it goes for a promotional venture just starting out) not to mention a financial loss.
But it has to start somewhere.
The best option overall would be somewhere centrally located and towards the south for an extended warm season, and near an airport so people would be able to fly in easily and cheaply.
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That is exactly what i've been thinking about recently...really good point! |
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Shiranui
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 17:48
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I think beyond just being nonprofit, the events should be charitable. Should benefit something related to the scene... can't think of anything right now... |
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6ateless6ate
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 19:56
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On 2009-10-27 17:48, Shiranui wrote:
I think beyond just being nonprofit, the events should be charitable. Should benefit something related to the scene... can't think of anything right now...
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That's the point. As a part of being non-profit you not distributing funds for personal gain but only to benefit the cause you're after (e.g. the scene , music, the festival , etc). So for example profits from one festival could go towards the next one.
And if we to create Open Source project so everybody could contribute with ideas on how to benefit the scene and develop a venue. |
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OpenSourceCode
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 20:42
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Ascension
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 20:47
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On 2009-10-27 20:42, OpenSourceCode wrote:
hmmm......a bunch of hippies wanna start a utopian community......
what could possibly go wrong?
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He wants to get a "decent PEACE of land" 
Good idea, but would work much, much better with a small group of people.
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AumShantiAum
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 21:11
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On 2009-10-27 20:47, Ascension wrote:
Good idea, but would work much, much better with a small group of people.
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Yah I agree. It would prob be much more viable if a small group of ppl does it and the rest of the community can just make donations if possible.
BTW, is land really that cheap? $200 bucks/acre? Well maybe a patch of desert (even that seems ridiculously cheap for an acre of desert) , but like mountain and forest land?
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6ateless6ate
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 21:41
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On 2009-10-27 21:11, AumShantiAum wrote:
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On 2009-10-27 20:47, Ascension wrote:
Good idea, but would work much, much better with a small group of people.
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Yeah mybe 5-10 ppl would be ideal.
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Yah I agree. It would prob be much more viable if a small group of ppl does it and the rest of the community can just make donations if possible.
BTW, is land really that cheap? $200 bucks/acre? Well maybe a patch of desert (even that seems ridiculously cheap for an acre of desert) , but like mountain and forest land?
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Well, the the main key is the "off-the-grid" land that doesn't have utilities brought to it.
As to the desert it is really amazingly cheap=)) But still it is a desert. But you can find a good deal even in mountains cause some land is not suited for much things(e.g. agriculture), like i've some gorgeous properties in Shasta surrounded by national forest 10acr for a 10-15k vs the same size for 2-3k in a desert:) (what you'll usually spend renting campground for just a few days). Im sure it is possible to find better deals talking with private owners.
Still trying to figure out which area would have the best bang. |
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Oct 28, 2009 00:15
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I need to emphasize on the desert idea, that proximity to an airport would be key to the success of this.
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karmavsDogma
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Posted : Oct 28, 2009 08:25
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You guys want to find a way to buy a tract of land in Arizona, and I can find you plenty of people to put together quality events year round.
"Every generation needs a new revolution." ~Thomas Jefferson
Join ours: http://www.campaignforliberty.com
Overmind Works - bringing quality psytrance to the Arizona scene.
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