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Colin OOOD
OOOD/Voice of Cod

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Posted : Feb 26, 2014 14:02
Oh, and I disagree that all psytrance is 'underground'. Compared to some genres it is, maybe, but as with any genre there is still some psy made for the fame and the money, not for the music. Psytrance has its ghostwriters and fake artists, too!           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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randulon


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Posted : Feb 26, 2014 17:41
Care to name any of these fake artists or drop subtle hints?
Out World


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Posted : Feb 26, 2014 21:19
Subscribed...Very nice project !! Full suport!!!


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The Hypnotic LFO Room


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Posted : Feb 27, 2014 20:44
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On 2014-02-26 03:06, Psychedelic eMag wrote:
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On 2014-02-25 21:53, The Hypnotic LFO Room wrote:
I hope you look at the underground too instead of just focusing on popular pop trance.



If you ask me, all psytrance scene is "underground".. There's no mainstream. I got your point tho and we're working towards that direction. furthermore, i appreciate your suggestion and if you wanna get deeper in this and explain it even further i'll be grateful. Nevertheless we're 100% open to ideas and suggestions, after all we're all from the same group of people




My point is that whenever you see a Festival review or artist review/interviews its 99% about big commercial festivals such as Ozora, Boom etc. and the same artists who play there year after year.

I miss non-commercial artists and festivals/parties getting a chance too.

An example. Last summer ZNA Gathering in Portugal happened. A 100% retro Festival with an amazing vision, crowd and not the usual 5-10"top" Goa artist playing but a mix of other artists who was just as popular in the 90's but totally ignored by today's "Supermarket" organizers. I did not see any magazines being interested. Instead they focused on the same commercial festivals and artists as usual.

To make it short. Focus on the real psytrance and goatrance = The underground. Not just commercial "machinegun-bass" pop-trance and Festivals who are into the scene to make money.
Psychedelic eMag


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Posted : Feb 28, 2014 00:46
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My point is that whenever you see a Festival review or artist review/interviews its 99% about big commercial festivals such as Ozora, Boom etc. and the same artists who play there year after year.

I miss non-commercial artists and festivals/parties getting a chance too.

An example. Last summer ZNA Gathering in Portugal happened. A 100% retro Festival with an amazing vision, crowd and not the usual 5-10"top" Goa artist playing but a mix of other artists who was just as popular in the 90's but totally ignored by today's "Supermarket" organizers. I did not see any magazines being interested. Instead they focused on the same commercial festivals and artists as usual.

To make it short. Focus on the real psytrance and goatrance = The underground. Not just commercial "machinegun-bass" pop-trance and Festivals who are into the scene to make money.



haha it's funny to mention that. To prove that we're in that direction, i have interview already with Pedro, except of everything else, from the founders of ZNA Gathering
He's not included at the names i'm mentioning on my initial post cause we need to finalize some things first.
I wanted also to say, as we're just launching, its hard for us to determine from the beginning how all the magazine will be and if all the ideas we have can be at first one-two issues. You know, we need time to form our own shape. We, for sure, don't want to be something that it's already out there... We want our own unique style. Example, as other magazines have Psychedelic art for magazine cover, we'll have the main artist of the month as magazine cover. and so forth! Everything we do, we're trying to be different from what is already out there...
About the festivals you mentioned, i guess this is happening cause at the one specific magazine that is existing right now, the promotional pages (eg. Reviews, ads, etc) is very expensive and only this top festivals can afford to be featured there. To be honest, i don't know how much space they book as real reviews and how much as paid, or generally how they use their content whatsoever, so i don't want to be harsh against them. But its the only logical explanation. I don't think that a medium-small festival ("underground") doesn't want advertisement...Just can't afford it. And as i get, in some magazines you get in only if you pay.. Nevertheless, to be able to do the things you're saying (and i agree) we need to establish first a network of people that will help us bring all this to our pages. We're already setting up this network and hopefully after a little time we'll be able to be up to your expectations
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Independent monthly e-Magazine dedicated to the global psytrance community.
Psychedelic eMag


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Posted : Feb 28, 2014 00:56
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On 2014-02-26 14:02, Colin OOOD wrote:
Oh, and I disagree that all psytrance is 'underground'. Compared to some genres it is, maybe, but as with any genre there is still some psy made for the fame and the money, not for the music. Psytrance has its ghostwriters and fake artists, too!




yea actually, initially, i have the same question as randulon above: can you name some "fake artists"? Or if you don't want to mention names in a public forum (respectful) at least give me some more what's a "fake artist" for you.

I don't share bro that, cause i don't see that there's any "money" in this scene in compare with ALL other EDM scenes out there. I believe most (if not all) of the people that follow this scene firstly they do it cause they're falling in love with psytrance. Of course money is becoming the target in some of them after time, but i don't think they're getting in psytrance for money in the first place. After all, the fees for psytrance artists is pitiful in compare with any other DJ fee in EDM (like house, techno, etc. etc.)
          Psychedelic eMag :: The roots of a culture.
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Independent monthly e-Magazine dedicated to the global psytrance community.
Carbuncle
Mushroom Hunters

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Posted : Feb 28, 2014 00:59
Lost Theory Festival
Freqs Of Nature

lineups that you guys definitely should check and deal with such artists.. really pure psychedelic music coming out from those artists.. these only 2 from my side cheers
Psychedelic eMag


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Posted : Feb 28, 2014 01:10
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On 2014-02-28 00:59, Carbuncle wrote:
Lost Theory Festival
Freqs Of Nature

lineups that you guys definitely should check and deal with such artists.. really pure psychedelic music coming out from those artists.. these only 2 from my side cheers




Hi Carbuncle, yea both are amazing festivals. We have contact already artists from this line-ups for upcoming issues Stay tuned!
Thank you for your suggestions tho, very appreciated
          Psychedelic eMag :: The roots of a culture.
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Independent monthly e-Magazine dedicated to the global psytrance community.
Colin OOOD
OOOD/Voice of Cod

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Posted : Feb 28, 2014 04:15
A 'fake artist' IMO is someone who hires a ghostwriter - a composer or a music producer who often signs a non-disclosure agreement - to write the music that comes out under his or her name, and who then takes all credit for it. Like these guys:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/05/japan-beethoven-mamoru-samagochi-composer-deaf
(oh and all of a sudden the fraudster says he's not so deaf any more... )

In the last few months I've seen a Facebook page offering psytrance ghostwriting services, and I've followed up a couple of interesting comments I've seen on various places and actually got to talk to someone who used to work as a ghostwriter in the psytrance scene. He doesn't want to be a whistleblower so I won't give his name, and he didn't want to tell me specifically who he wrote for, but he did say "Yes, a couple of them have been famous but disappeared when they couldnt make any more "good" music." I don't know if you feel you have any reason to trust me, but we had a long chat about all sorts of stuff, and I trust him.

Anyway it's only a part of the scene and there's plenty of other things going on to concentrate on           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Upavas
Upavas

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Posted : Mar 1, 2014 10:00
Subscribed... and intrigued. Hopefully this is not "another" Magazine that concentrates it's attention to the more famous main stream producers (meaning the same old same old)

In the last 2 years or so I have found and connected with some amazing producers all over North America, you won't find them in Europe, at least not yet. I also find the magazines about Psy that are currently out there very very mainstream and when looking into some of the festivals they talked about here in Canada and also in the USA I was surprised that only the shitty ones were mentioned.

It would be great to see a magazine that really works with the scene instead of for the main stram Psy that's out there...

Prime example Rinkadink! Yes, he is a great producer, but I have already seen so much and heard so much about and of Werner that I wonder if this new e mag is not same old same old...
not that there is no good main stream psy out there and Werner does make good music! Also when I met him years ago I found him to be a nice chap... albeit his tunes as of late are a bit too mainstream for my taste (that's subjective though), needless to say that this type of interview has been done over and over...

Apart from advertisement revenue I wonder how you guys will make enough money to survive if you don't go the usual commercial route...

I wish you guys the best and very much look forward to checking out what you come up with!

Greetings and love!
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Psychedelic eMag


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Posted : Mar 1, 2014 19:01
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On 2014-02-28 04:15, Colin OOOD wrote:
A 'fake artist' IMO is someone who hires a ghostwriter - a composer or a music producer who often signs a non-disclosure agreement - to write the music that comes out under his or her name, and who then takes all credit for it. Like these guys:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/05/japan-beethoven-mamoru-samagochi-composer-deaf
(oh and all of a sudden the fraudster says he's not so deaf any more... )

In the last few months I've seen a Facebook page offering psytrance ghostwriting services, and I've followed up a couple of interesting comments I've seen on various places and actually got to talk to someone who used to work as a ghostwriter in the psytrance scene. He doesn't want to be a whistleblower so I won't give his name, and he didn't want to tell me specifically who he wrote for, but he did say "Yes, a couple of them have been famous but disappeared when they couldnt make any more "good" music." I don't know if you feel you have any reason to trust me, but we had a long chat about all sorts of stuff, and I trust him.

Anyway it's only a part of the scene and there's plenty of other things going on to concentrate on




Yea to be honest, i am in this music scene from mid 90's, i have study EDM in SAE at 2002, i know dozens of top names (or not top) from our scene, i have been in almost all big festivals of EU, and still, i didn't knew that we have ghost writers at psytrance! lol! I don't say i don't believe you, of course i do, just seems so ridiculous to me that someone do that in psytrance
But thanks for all this info, now i have ever more "subjects" to inspect on lol           Psychedelic eMag :: The roots of a culture.
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Independent monthly e-Magazine dedicated to the global psytrance community.
Psychedelic eMag


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Posted : Mar 1, 2014 19:25
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On 2014-03-01 10:00, Upavas wrote:
Subscribed... and intrigued. Hopefully this is not "another" Magazine that concentrates it's attention to the more famous main stream producers (meaning the same old same old)

In the last 2 years or so I have found and connected with some amazing producers all over North America, you won't find them in Europe, at least not yet. I also find the magazines about Psy that are currently out there very very mainstream and when looking into some of the festivals they talked about here in Canada and also in the USA I was surprised that only the shitty ones were mentioned.

It would be great to see a magazine that really works with the scene instead of for the main stram Psy that's out there...

Prime example Rinkadink! Yes, he is a great producer, but I have already seen so much and heard so much about and of Werner that I wonder if this new e mag is not same old same old...
not that there is no good main stream psy out there and Werner does make good music! Also when I met him years ago I found him to be a nice chap... albeit his tunes as of late are a bit too mainstream for my taste (that's subjective though), needless to say that this type of interview has been done over and over...

Apart from advertisement revenue I wonder how you guys will make enough money to survive if you don't go the usual commercial route...

I wish you guys the best and very much look forward to checking out what you come up with!

Greetings and love!




Hi there brother. Firstly, thank you for your time to subscribe with us. We appreciate it.
With that said, all my life im trying to speak honest and honest i'll tell you that i don't like this separation of "main-stream" and "underground" in our scene. When this came up? From the separation of Full-On and Progressive? IDK. In my eyes the scene was always underground and there's just successful and less successful artists like there's in all scenes of music. The term "Main Stream" we're using it for exactly what the word is spelling, MAIN STREAM. Did Psytance has a main stream and i didn't noticed? Is on Mtv? Playing at EDM Main Stream radios of the world? Did they play on Pacha and Amnesia at Ibiza? Yes i can accept that some artists (in progressive -almost techno- psytrance) got picked by DJs from other main stream scenes but i don't consider this as a "main stream". Actually (to pass to the next subject) we had with Warner also some interesting words about the prog and full-on thing.
About Rinkadink, is an all time favorite for me personally and i believe he's one of the few producers that really brought they're own style. There's no so much out there, imo. We had in our minds to feature both in our pages, top-class artists and "underground" (cause i see you like this term ) artists. Nevertheless, our mag is not for printing (not in the near future tho) and we can adjust our number of pages accordingly and have space for every one. WE ARE ONE and this is how it needs to stay if you ask me
For revenues we have some ideas but okay, we don't focus too much on this right now. We believe that if you make something worthy revenues will come. Somehow! But as i said, we're not printed mag so we can have space for all ideas, all subjects and still have space for "usual commercial route" if i understood correct what you mean. When you print, then it's totally different story! We should not be harsh with printed magazines cause their costs today is unbearable and they're putting huge efforts to publish their mags. I also see my self here and there getting frustrated by some things but then i think what everyone needs to pass to bring his magazine at our hands and i understand them. I don't like but i understand.
Cheers bro.
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Subscribe: http://psychedelicmag.com
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Independent monthly e-Magazine dedicated to the global psytrance community.
The Hypnotic LFO Room


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Posted : Mar 1, 2014 22:01
Subscribed and also hope you take the time to listen to my next Elysium album (out after the summer) and some of the many projects old time artist friends and I am involved with the next months (some will be big) and hope it's something you would consider to cover
Upavas
Upavas

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Posted : Mar 1, 2014 23:11
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On 2014-03-01 19:25, Psychedelic eMag wrote:
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With that said, all my life im trying to speak honest and honest i'll tell you that i don't like this separation of "main-stream" and "underground" in our scene. When this came up? From the separation of Full-On and Progressive?




Not sure when, all I can tell you is that I have been a part of this circus since 1986 and that sometimes in the late 90s, a kind of change occurred, around the time when many more people started producing, simply because stuff to produce with became a lot cheaper... Please substitute the word same old same old or "top notch" or whatever it is that you prefer for Mainstream...

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There's no so much out there, imo. We had in our minds to feature both in our pages, top-class artists and "underground" (cause i see you like this term )



I actually did not use this term "underground" even once in my last post...

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Is on Mtv? Playing at EDM Main Stream radios of the world? Did they play on Pacha and Amnesia at Ibiza?




Not sure about MTV, As far as Pacha and Amnesia are concerned, most definitely yes, they did play there! How do I know? I was there and smoked and hung out with quite a few of them, oh and they were far from progressive...

I think that I might have pissed you off with my last post, that was not the intention. My intention was to suggest to you a broader perspective of all things trance...

Once again, I agree with you that Werner is indeed a unique and excellent producer... I never disputed that, I just suggested you look into the nooks and crannies, such as for instance a young fellow ( maybe 22 years old from Montreal, who makes Psy since 2 years and knocked several artists (me included) socks off when he played a live set, to the point that we were scratching our heads, thinking that what the fuck have we been doing for the last 16 years? You never hear about people like that, so, why don't you hear about this? Because mags today lack when it comes to research, it is a lot easier and safer to prefer "top Notch" such as Nano records, Parvati records, Timecode records and the other as you like to say "top class artists", which to me is another word for mainstream...

All sarcasm aside, my intention is not to tell you how to run your mag, it is just to tell you that I would love to see more new discoveries out there, not just in terms of artists, but also as far as parties are concerned, all things Goa that may not be "top class" or mainstream or whatever word it is you prefer, but the small, the new, and the stuff that actually needs a lot more research...

Peace out!



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http://upavas.com
http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/
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