sachin22
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Posted : Oct 5, 2012 02:37:00
Hi guys, does anyone knows how to make a fullon psy trance bassline using massive please? Check out the link to have an idea of what type of bassline am after. I will be very grateful if anyone can help please. I already spent 2 hours trying to make it but i still can't make it sound similar. I used a saw wave with a sine for bottom end and a low pass filter controlled by an envelop and velocity. Well i tried different type of combinations aswell. Where do you think am wrong.
Thanks a lot for your time and have a good night for now.
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Posted : Oct 5, 2012 02:45
havent checked the music but try the first saw with osc retriger envelop amount on the filter around 50% and tweak from there as starting point on the scream filter, its one if the not the faster sounding for usual basslines.
use pre /post saturation to get more solid sound,same check for the fastest ones .
try around 30/40 keyboard tracking on the filter to start with and adjust depending your pattern, you can use little velocity on fillter too and on the amp envelop
gain stagin too, i usualy use lower osc and filter level than the default settings at max i think it sound cleaner in a good way but could be my imagination. you can expeirment with the feedback too but personally i think it make things worst on psybass, or used so lightly that it s not really needed , the sautration in the fx stage sound good too might worth a try to faten the sound even more if it dont kill the punch, depand what you are fater, for a more rounded bass it might be good too.
i find the envelops not fast enought, it start like a few samples to late.. maybe it s cause the attack is linear dunno but it s still good.. should try modulating the attack with a envelop but i think i tried once and it didint help
sachin22
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Posted : Oct 5, 2012 19:25
Hi mate, thanks for replying back. The retrig, is it the time knob in the glide section, right? How about the pre/post saturation. What do you mean by that? I can't find anything that says saturation on. Or do you mean the effects?
Thanks my friend.
Sachin
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Posted : Oct 5, 2012 19:37
yes the effet , there is hardcliping, parabolic sine..dont remember the names ,you can place them pre/post filter in the routing section, it can make the sound a little phater if you want.
what i dont like it don't really cut ,the attack is too round maybe.
the other day i tried zeta2 and in this it s more easy to get good bass i think but it might be taste..
sachin22
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Posted : Oct 6, 2012 03:21
Ok cool buddy, i'll mess around with these stuffs then. Thanks a lot for your help PoM. Have a very good day buddy...
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Posted : Oct 6, 2012 11:36
ok here are 2 samples of psybasslines if you want more send me your e mail and i send you more ! good luck with it
sachin22
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Posted : Oct 7, 2012 22:07
B-recluse: PM sent mate. Please check it out.
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Posted : Oct 8, 2012 01:51
Massive output is digital sound...
if you intend to have psytrance basslines you need punch...
wich means you will need analog presence with nice compressing setup
digital sound can give you nice presence in terms of stereo and a nice cutting sound through the mix, but for the basslines and presence... is a no go
to make basslines people dont need big synths, even with a simple 3 oscilator plugin without fx you can do a nice job, if you modulate it properly and your setup in the mixer is well done...
you will never archieve a "pro" like bassline using just a plugin preset, because most of the producers you ear use a high sufisiticated job in their mixer, thats why their sound makes you jump in the dance-floors, all that punch, all that acuracy doesnt came from a single preset shared on the web, its all ears and knoledge driven into a setup
plugin> compression> eq and also articulation with kick and drum elements (this is the key)
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Posted : Oct 8, 2012 01:51
double message.
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Posted : Oct 8, 2012 02:20
yeah true havent find a synth that sound totally satisfying wihtout any processing, my Xs is not far but it dont retriger phase.. omnipshere trilian not far too.. but it dont mean much processing is needed ,digital or analog synth it s often very light processing ..but depend what sound you are after..
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Posted : Oct 8, 2012 11:59
Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 8, 2012 12:48
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On 2012-10-08 12:16, Ricciardo wrote:
your tracks sound ok, the first one the kick gain is driving the track and the bass is a bit muddy, the second is more well balanced, but booth are ok
Yeah did not want a lot of harmonics present on the first track's bassline. Wanted to get away from the clean sawtooth full on like bass patch. It don't sound muddy in my studio, car and the bar P.A. where I work (4x15" speakers + 2 18" subs).
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Posted : Oct 8, 2012 16:25
yeah strong compression will make thing less pleasant, harsher,harder or maybe with analog compressor most plugs i use are brittle when pushed a little (same for eq,saturation..everything)
i would say you don't even need compression , it s not a must.. lot of the pro bass i hear , 3 or 4 eq bands the synth well tweaked and you get the sound already in the same ballpark .
