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Christian
D-Nox
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 17:10
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Yes man all in one and one can be all... so easy it is.
just a party!!!
nobody can be the asshole anymore.
nobody dosen`t fullfiled any expactations.
peace...
music is like life and everyday can be different.
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planet_zohar
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 17:36
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d-nox ...lets say if what u call prog is the music u provide than its exactly what i like.
i wasnt disapointed from any of your tracks till now.
u rock.
about tecno ...well its hot country ppl dont like cold music. but they like full on . and the higher the bpm the happy u make them.
i like my music in 134 .
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Synthax
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 18:03
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its all cause of lots of people in that period we live like everything to be taged and branded, its stucking things for shure. a branding inflation. each housekeper got a logo and fancy buisness card.
but that whats now.
tell me sth more interesting christian... whats next?
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Christian
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 18:23
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nectarios you are right!!!
Breaks are the most popular club music right now, the highest sales with underground music you get with breaks at the moment.
All the famouse clubs and promoters start booking these killa break djs like the Adam Freeland, the Plump DJ Team or Meat & Katie.
I would call this music progressive because they use many different influence. It is very danceable, fresh , groovy and absolutly new. It has this special feeling and this music is so fucking strong.
keep on banging!!!
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krelm
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 20:20
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On 2003-09-02 18:23, Christian wrote:
Breaks are the most popular club music right now, the highest sales with underground music you get with breaks at the moment.
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Christian, are breaks popular in clubs in your part of Germany? I have only heard the sound while visiting in Berlin so far (Meat Katie & Rennie Pilgrem....mmmm). Other than that, I don't even find many people in Germany who have heard the sound!
And of course not here in Leipzig. It is the music I am most passionate about for the last year+, so it drives me mad to only hear it at home.
I used to be sad that most psy-breaks artists moved on to other styles. But much music I hear coming from the breaks scene now is so damn psychedelic! Before I left Texas last year, the usual "psytrance" party had 1/3 breaks, 1/3 tribal/proghouse, and 1/3 psytrance. And nobody ever complained that the music was not psychedelic.
The sound has no limits and producers are always pushing any boundary they find. That is progressive music to me. Nectarios, you will see me at one of these parties in the UK sometime.
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Trip-
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 21:36
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and just to add to the topic, what ppl mean by when they call something progressive trance is when you hear that chord stab - yes the same one overused chord that u hear in house and club - in a track, it becomes suddenly the progressive genre, that's what they call progressive, when it obviously isn't.
Just to remind you all who cameup with truly progressive trance back in the days:
Indoor - Progressive Trance
untill today i haven't heard anything like that music.
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IntelabeaM
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 22:14
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progresive trance ...this is one thing u forgat to say here ( well just left it aside ), we r talking about trance and yes , the definision of the kind of music is wrong ..as u all said "progresive" meens progresion ..but it doesnt have to be 130 bpm , and it can be a dancefloor track , and it happend's now and then in many difrent trance act's from many difrent side's of the music prodaction , wether it's a new idea's coming from denmark , or a new refreshing act from israel ..there r many new thing's , new idea's , new music ...is this progresive trance then ? ..it is a progresion in the music...as Elysium said ..music is music ..leave the labeling out ..not all the music that ppl call full on is the same , and not every 134 bpm track is progresive ..
well that's what i think at list
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Yuli
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 22:20
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The Intelabeam red hair reminded me what progressive is
PROGRESSIVE = SUB6
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Yuli
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 22:23
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And please take this reply with OPEN MIND and don't go for small and irrelevant details - go for the global smell coming from sub6 music
SUB6 = PROGRESSIVE
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pr0fane
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 22:44
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 22:44
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may be tommorow i will sorry for writing it,
may be some ppl will laugh at me,
but,
i thought this thoughts:
music called Goa Trance done in past to move your mind, it has very clear accent on stone mind, coze alot of parts in this music absolutely absurd to not sone mind, so this music move your mind nd then your body follow your mind, u get into rythm, prety simple and not dominated but rythm, then u get into Trance, mission done.
later came a Progressive Trance idea, that is about get you into Trance straight from the body level, giving the mind be empty then, fill it with less mind games, something more basic and instinctivity, when your mind follow your body, opposite of Goa.
Full On i never get the idea of, so this lines will write somebody more connected to the genre.
the magic thing for me is that Body Rock idea is much more open for experements and diversity, so till drums dont stop, your mind never will come back to you, since Trance is all over.
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Anak
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 23:00
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nice one zombie. makes sense for sure.
anyway, progressive today is mostly generally used for "stuff without melody" which is completely not the truth.
progressive is floating music. music whichs particular parts dont repeat. in comperence to the most newer fullon tunes, that dont have a real peak imho, progressive music only builds up for one point (like kaz once said i think).
in opposite to old goa tunes, where the "build-ups" where just there to announce whats coming, in progressive u definetely count the build-up to the actual track. thats why the prog. builds are usually longer and rocking from the first second on.
but hell yeah, elysium is right in some way
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 2, 2003 23:24
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the most magic thing for me is after this Progressive Trance idea came a just Progressive, music that noone realy can decide if its WHAT ?? when so many different styles and inspirations come together into one piece, where nobody who know which style he want exactly will not find a exactly what he look for and in the same time it will be everything, it is a music with no borders.
so, from a one year or so (correct me if im wrong) new forces came to dancefloors and moved the borders out, crashed them. not everybody can follow it, exactly like not everybody prefer many-levels-colorful-cocktail or wine-mdma combination, but a carnival is on and a big time around.
all this on "under mind/feel" level, so ofcourse can be felt different with each and everyone around, i just talk about myself only, and this at later night, gimme a rest, just play it in right time, feel the moment, feel the rythm (something alot of ppl in parties dont know exist) and banalic as it is - keep your mind open:)
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Christian
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Posted : Sep 3, 2003 11:49
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Yeah Zombi it is right!!!
Actually all the music came from the drums (quite long time ago) and the real mind games starts when the music is more minimal. In minimal music is enough space left for everybodys brain. This is like a openfield, everything can be possible and for every other person the same track can be a totaly different experience. Emagine!
Otherwise music which is full up loaded with sounds it`s like the news in TV - what you see you will believe.
My man reason to put the Progressive Topic was.
That sometimes peoples in the trancescene forget what progressive is. Sometimes people came up to me and ask like: "ehhhh, can you play a little bit more progressive?" Of course I can play a little bit more progressive. I love to play everything.
If I would play more progressive as I`m doing it already at the moment, they would maybe leave the party because it is a disaster how less people are realy open for new & progressive music. I wish that we all will open our minds and let the dj play.
10 years ago in the very beginning of techno, there was nobody who put frontiers between house and techno, trance and hardcore. It was just pure fun and a hugh comunity without scenefuck.
so music is music and be open for different and new kinds!!!
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