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Progressive bass line tutorial please

shilshoolon
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Posted : Feb 25, 2005 02:43
There is a great full on bass tutorial here written by Mike A and I have learned a lot from it. I was wondering if any one could explain in such detail or give any information on how they make their progressive trance (type of plug-ins, structures, compression and EQ and so on)
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tokolosh
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Posted : Feb 25, 2005 18:56
use the korg ms-20 it has a nice bass
fregle
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Posted : Feb 25, 2005 21:59
there's not such a big difference in production... U prolly just want more sub and less mid for progressive... And u aren't cramped into a tiny set of rules, u have more freedom to develop the bass u want, cuz there's no 'standard' way of making a progressive bass

ofcourse, u can be creative with a full-on bass too, nobody's stopping u to be original...

In fact, the process to develop a good bass is about the same in every genre. The waves u choose, and the frequencies u want to attenuate differ ofcourse, but the basic modus opperandi (synth/sampler -> Comp -> EQ or synth/sampler -> EQ -> comp) is the same.

For fun u can add some fx like reverb or stereoDelay or ... , but u can do that on full-on basses too.

anyway, experiment!! That's what progressive trance is all about
shilshoolon
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Posted : Feb 27, 2005 03:44
Thanks

What you said above is very true and helpful but I’m also looking for any extra info that could put me in the right direction and make my life easier.

for example I know some people prefer different bass vsts for different styles of full on (VB1 and other bass vsts).what do most progressive trance producers prefer to work with and how.

I enjoy learning and experimenting with sounds but I it helps allot when I am told if something is good and used by other.

Any info would be greatly appreciated
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Elad
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Posted : Feb 27, 2005 14:43
for "proggy" i'd use more fat basses then vb1 thats for sure... albino2 makes unique basses also v-station has fatness inside vanguard wont fall from this list and offcourse.. korg legacy collection..           www.sattelbattle.com
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shilshoolon
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Posted : Feb 28, 2005 16:38
nice one tsabeat
thats more like it
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shilshoolon
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Posted : Feb 28, 2005 18:47
Does anyone out there know what plug in or hardware freq uses for the bass line in strange attractor’s carbon based life form, and how he made the base structure, notation production and so on? Anything would help pictures are more than welcome           Ate pepper? Drink juice!
Psylopath
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Posted : Mar 1, 2005 14:22
yesterda, i was searching the forum for about 2 hours for this bass tutorial from Mike A, but I couldn't finde it.
Has anybody a direct link for me?
Thx
Psylo
shilshoolon
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Posted : Mar 1, 2005 16:11
here you go Psylopath


http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/53266/forum/2

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fregle
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Posted : Mar 1, 2005 16:55
If u want lot's of sub, use a real analogue synth, or a VERY GOOD emulation, cuz u want to use the filter, with the resonance completely open. If u then lower the cutoff u'll hear that the sinewave from the filter will produce an enormous sub (if i do it with my juno-60 all my furniture starts shaking). just modulate the cutoff with an envelope, and gate the amplitude!! play with the attack to get those progressive bass-swoops and bumps... If u add distortion to this u have DnB basslines For psy u will have to cut a lot of sub, cuz those analogue filters really produce sub like nothing else!!
shilshoolon
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Posted : Mar 1, 2005 17:34
FREGLE do u mean self osclation on the filter ?           Ate pepper? Drink juice!
fregle
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Posted : Mar 1, 2005 21:14
yes indeed... But digital filters sound very thin when self-oscillating at such low frequencies... So u really need a good analogue filter or a very good emulation of an analogue filter

ofcourse i also use at least 1 other wave from an osc (mostly a sawtooth wave, but u can choose anything u want...) for the mids...

with my juno-60 this works like a charm...
Psylopath
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Posted : Mar 1, 2005 23:21
thx for the link
shilshoolon
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Posted : Mar 2, 2005 19:18
no probs Psylopath

FREGLE i wonder how can i control the cycle, phaze,of the sine ? i try doing it on the micromodular but the sine is out of phaze from the osc.           Ate pepper? Drink juice!
shilshoolon
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Posted : Mar 2, 2005 20:41
how do i get it to sync?
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