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Production quality - mainly Bass and Kick

Xetni


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Posted : Apr 25, 2013 23:56
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On 2013-04-25 23:37, Geom3 wrote:
fuk..ya still ruunin on even tho all answers here in forum....god lol
you lot lov the sound of ya own words dont ya...any exuse to post ya pics and braaaag like a faaaaag...

how about helping instead of running on fuklip



What's the problem, I don't understand who are you fighting with?
gabfavaro
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 00:54
hey....
Pass the link with the DOMESTIC SECRETS!!

I watch the mixing secrets with psysun...is this video th you are saying?
willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 01:05
the domestic secrets are here on isratrance. can't remember which thread. maybe bassline master thread?            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Dajak


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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 02:05
i know the threads with domestic and the mothers one they are great.

which PSYsun Video ???
Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 14:41
also the threads with protoculture was very helpful

if you do a seach back to the old topics you can find some diamonds threads from great guys with so many good and helpful informations and tips.           ...into the wild....
Xetni


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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 16:19
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On 2013-04-26 02:05, Dajak wrote:

which PSYsun Video ???



I think he means the mixing tutorials with Andi Vax (SynSUN);










Dajak


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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 17:48
awesome guys, thanks!!!
dija
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Posted : Apr 27, 2013 05:03
I find one of the most important things that helps define the bass line is not only your Amp env but also the length of the notes. I always turn snap off and make sure they aren't running into each other and give them varying lengths. (usually a little longer on the 3rd step of each beat)           http://www.youtube.com/user/trawhi (tutorials)
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Xetni


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Posted : Apr 27, 2013 10:09
Exactly. That, velocity, and note spacing too.

Typically I make the first two shorter than 16th and the 3rd one is almost a full 16th.
Taisto
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Posted : Apr 27, 2013 10:18
Creative productions, Tracks are moving! Thats the main issue mostly to get that thing right first, mixing are always a problem in different levels..

But i like the athmosphere you are trying to create i can see the picture.. only it feels you have some sounds too loud and over processed, it dont need that much in my opinion. Bass has some sort of box character, like quadrafuzz kind of effect which is a matter of taste of course.

Keep doing those sound scapes but like POM said try to get them even more natural, because sometímes like breaks/intros it feels very real and touchy but more powerful elements can messing it up if their are not in control..           - - - - -
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Dajak


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Posted : Apr 27, 2013 15:05
to Taisto: thanks a lot man, really glad to hear that. fine usefull things for me
Quadrafuzz - do you think it sound because of that boxxy or that i should try it ??
because i have never tried it yet, but i will try it now anyway.
Taisto
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Posted : Apr 27, 2013 22:08
If you like that kind of ''boxy'' or a bit cold effect to bass you should try quadrafuzz for sure, it has some short of boxy feeling in my opinion, even i prefer more warmer basslines, more fullfilled and pleasant. Maybe one day i will create one myself..

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Dajak


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Posted : Apr 27, 2013 23:49
thats an interesting point...
you know, i dont want to copy anybody but also i think its always terrible if people like in other threads write things like "try ur own basslines+sound...dont imitate others and blabla.."
thats complete shit. thats called inspiration. one artists hears another and tries something out and learns that way..

theres a certain bass-sound, i´d like to discuss with you.
some examples:

Side Effects - one mans vision
Rocky - Drum selected
Zyce - Spirits
Ovnimoon - the Source
Zentura - light Mutations

what do you think about that?
Fakso
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Posted : Apr 28, 2013 02:01
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On 2013-04-27 23:49, Dajak wrote:

Side Effects - one mans vision
Rocky - Drum selected
what do you think about that?




Yes side effects have a very clean and tight bass

I'm in search of such tight basses and I get closer and closer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs5FtxCBEvo

dunno if it is said in the video as I watched it some month ago but, with sampling your bassnotes have each their own impact and that gets clarity and rolling

eq it right, these low mids/midrange really makes mud but be careful not to overdo it as the bass can loose power

right envelope tweaking is important too, I was surprised how the sound changes with time after I found out that it must be plucked, I get better results now(mostly really low cutoff, env amount to taste, and little decay mostly + amp env. also not that much decay, some sustain etc.

which compressor you use on the bass transients will have a massive effect on your sound, at least when I tried out different, some brought that pluck out really snappy and tight cutting through the mix, whereas other did little on that

groove is also important for that 3x note bass, mark them all in your clip or whatever and move them(or just some of them) forth and back a bit and check where it sounds most groovy

there are different ways to achieve such basses and here I left out some stuff in my production chain of making a bass(glueing kick/bass together with comp./
this http://www.toneprojects.com/products/plug-ins/basslane/ on my kick/bass groove, gives some power to the lowend again, I also boosted the root freq. of my bass with success, it's always said not to boost but in this case I got better results, but dunno how it sounds on a PA)


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supergroover
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Posted : Apr 28, 2013 09:25
Yes the basslane is really nice. Used it all the time when I was still on pc. Now on mac I can't use it anymore =S           soundcloud.com/supergroover
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