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Producing like writing sheet music?
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 18:06:48
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I was wondering if anyone has written a track similar to how you would write sheet music (I only relate it to this because you write the notes first, then play them after). Something that would involve drawing out midi patterns for their desired lengths and notes, then labeling them with whatever type of sound you want it to eventually be (hat, snare, rise, gold ray, etc). This would be done on all blank channels first, then the sounds are added after.
Might be a cool concept to try?
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 19:05
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Sonar has the staff window.
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 19:13
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Oni Katsu
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 19:35
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Mike A
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 19:47
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Wouldn't work in psytrance.
Psytrance is based on sound, and playing "G# B C" will sound so much different on various sound generators and effects.
In classical music the same 3 notes will sound more or less the same.
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 19:52
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On 2010-08-12 19:47, Mike A wrote:
Wouldn't work in psytrance.
Psytrance is based on sound, and playing "G# B C" will sound so much different on various sound generators and effects.
In classical music the same 3 notes will sound more or less the same.
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Well that's the point of labeling each empty midi sequence with the type of sound. Choosing the note would only be for sake of keeping something in scale or note/chord progressions.
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 19:55
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On 2010-08-12 19:35, Oni Katsu wrote:
That could be fun, but hella lot of work aint it?
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Might be a bit more work, but could be a good technique for getting some general ideas out of your head immediately. Could also help to get rid of some writers block or just give someone a fresh approach to production.
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Trevon
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 20:03
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humm... it might work.
and if you use markers to separate and label each track section.. intro, verse, chorus, breaks, etc.
you get a perspective of the full song layout.
so it's time to start creating patterns  with no sound
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Padmapani
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 20:32
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On 2010-08-12 19:47, Mike A wrote:
Wouldn't work in psytrance.
Psytrance is based on sound, and playing "G# B C" will sound so much different on various sound generators and effects.
In classical music the same 3 notes will sound more or less the same.
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yup. would only work nice if you use presets (for example when trying to make a completely generic fullon track), which is why it works with classical music as classical musicians are members of the preset brigade anyway  |
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 20:52
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I should say this isn't an idea to make something better or what not, mostly to give a producer a different perspective on things and maybe come across techniques they have yet to think of during normal production.
I'm a big fan of just doing things differently to see the results. For better or worse, can't hurt to try something new.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 21:49
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besides the fact that i cant read/write sheet music, my favourite thing about making a tune by jamming sounds in, is that I let the music take me where it wantys, instead of writing things down on paper, thus not allowing for the tune it self to "tell me" what I should be doing next.
Just my personal behaviour patterns when in the studio.
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 21:59
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Yeah I'm a big fan of writing "in the moment" too. This might be more of an idea to try out during some writers block.
This is kind of like a way to write music in a simpler fashion, where you don't have to worry about the synthesis part, but still be able to get some ideas down. http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Mike A
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 22:01
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On 2010-08-12 20:32, Padmapani wrote:
would only work nice if you use presets (for example when trying to make a completely generic fullon track), which is why it works with classical music as classical musicians are members of the preset brigade anyway
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Nectarios
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 22:05
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I kinda do it the other way around now days, I try to mangle a synth patch to the point where it is one single note trigger/simple noise sweep, but there is all sorts of rythmic, spectral "funkyness" going on....either that or a singe oscillator ripping JP8 riff lead that will rip your eyesockets for new eyeballs...or try to achieve that effect anyway.
the synthesis parts is as important as which notes I play on the keyboard nowdays...if not more important.
peace out.
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 12, 2010 22:26
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