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Problem in SIDECHAIN with LOGIC
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gabfavaro
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Posted : Apr 3, 2013 21:26:21
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Hi Guys!!
I am new on LOGIC...I produced some tracks in ABLETON, now I'm migrating to LOGIC.
I'm trying to made a SIDECHAIN in my BASS...so I use a EXS24 with some kick, send to some BUS and then I turn off the OUTPUT.
When I use the COMPRESSOR FOR SIDECHAIN, and then reduce the THRESHOLD...I see the GAIN REDUCTION, put all the bass volume has reduced even when the KICK don't send the signal.
So..I bounce the BASS to SEE the wave form..and for me SURPRISE, the wave form of the bass invade the area of the kick...causing the mix of kick and bass...
Any suggestion!?
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Nectarios
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Posted : Apr 3, 2013 22:19
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You need to select the bus that you are sending the kick to, at the sidechain input at the top right of the compressor that you want to duck the bassline.
Then you play around with bassline note lengths to avoid the bass, coinciding with the kick.
http://soundcloud.com/martianarts |
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Agorit
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Posted : Apr 3, 2013 23:20
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hey let me know onething.
is there any reason to switch from one DAW to another?
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gabfavaro
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Posted : Apr 3, 2013 23:47
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I am using the BUS in the compressor...
This is very strange to me, because in ABLETON is very simple...
When I bounce the BASS channel (with compressor SC working) I would't see the waveform conflicting with the KICK...
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gabfavaro
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Posted : Apr 3, 2013 23:49
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The reason for switch is because LOGIC have a better sound quality (my opinion).
The tools and native instruments are better in LOGIC |
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 4, 2013 01:11
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it s not set right, check youtube you will probably find tutorials. it s very simple in logic too not sure what you re doing wrong
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Xsze
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Posted : Apr 4, 2013 02:29
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How much did you sent to your bus?
There is circle next to your send rectangle (whaaatt?) where you can dial in amount of signal that is sent to bus channel 
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 4, 2013 02:35
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If you choose "bounce in place", it will simply render the audio on the bass channel - with no side chain effect (or any other sort of parallel processing you have going). You need to render the mix with the bass channel (or KB bus) in solo to be able to see the compressor's work reflected on the waveform.
But it's as easy as placing a compressor on the Bass's channel, selecting an audio track or bus in the side chain menu in the compressor, and adjust the settings to your liking.
There are many ways to go: you can use the sends (to send audio to an aux channel), or route the audio directly: instead of stereo out 1-2, you can select the aux. If the routing is done correctly, you will see the aux channel showing some action on its meters.
Many third party compressors like Fabfilter or Waves Audio will also display the same sub menu for selecting the side chain input - which is a bliss.
All in all, I think Logic is the simplest DAW to handle side chain. And the included compressor (with its many modes) is very good. |
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PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Apr 4, 2013 02:45
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gabfavaro
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Posted : Apr 4, 2013 02:52
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Yeah...thanks for the answers...
But..to write here, I try everything...I watch many tutorials in youtube..
I bounce the mix....and..I thing the wave form is conflicting...
But...thanks! |
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Xsze
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Posted : Apr 4, 2013 02:56
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And one more thing, is trigger(that random exs24 kick) playing at the same time as bassline, it's stupid question but as always it's the most basic thing 
Try opto for sc 
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gabfavaro
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Posted : Apr 4, 2013 03:17
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On 2013-04-04 02:45, PsyGalaXy wrote:
maybe you're using logic's built in compressor,
1st thing for good sidechianing is to switch the button under the thresold to PEAK
normally is set to RMS and the response is very slow
any of the algorithm (esp,platinum,and vca au)should do it fine
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YEAHHH!!! You are correct!!
Now I see the difference!!
Tkss bro
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Agorit
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Posted : Apr 4, 2013 04:24
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On 2013-04-03 23:49, gabfavaro wrote:
The reason for switch is because LOGIC have a better sound quality (my opinion).
The tools and native instruments are better in LOGIC
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Yeh its ok to prefer the tools and native in logic, but why u said that the sound has more quality?
if I do a blind test, you would know what was the logic?
And if you want to test, do a bounce in logic and other daw. and try to invert the phase.
U will see that the signal disappear.
I thought you would tell me who traded for not having adapted to the DAW workflow.
imho, is not daw quality parameter for decision.
All DAWs that are on the market are made by companies and serious business, so anyone is quality.
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SomeGuyPsy
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Posted : Apr 4, 2013 05:01
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On 2013-04-04 04:24, Agorit wrote:
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On 2013-04-03 23:49, gabfavaro wrote:
The reason for switch is because LOGIC have a better sound quality (my opinion).
The tools and native instruments are better in LOGIC
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Yeh its ok to prefer the tools and native in logic, but why u said that the sound has more quality?
if I do a blind test, you would know what was the logic?
And if you want to test, do a bounce in logic and other daw. and try to invert the phase.
U will see that the signal disappear.
I thought you would tell me who traded for not having adapted to the DAW workflow.
imho, is not daw quality parameter for decision.
All DAWs that are on the market are made by companies and serious business, so anyone is quality.
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Agreed, but if he likes the sound of the various synths and effekts, comps, etc. native in Logic, when it's the logical choice when we speak quality, I think my comps, etc. in ProTools are better than those
in Logic, but i think it's a matter of opinion and who you ask. |
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Agorit
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Posted : Apr 4, 2013 05:19
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On 2013-04-04 05:01, SomeGuyPsy wrote:
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On 2013-04-04 04:24, Agorit wrote:
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On 2013-04-03 23:49, gabfavaro wrote:
The reason for switch is because LOGIC have a better sound quality (my opinion).
The tools and native instruments are better in LOGIC
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Yeh its ok to prefer the tools and native in logic, but why u said that the sound has more quality?
if I do a blind test, you would know what was the logic?
And if you want to test, do a bounce in logic and other daw. and try to invert the phase.
U will see that the signal disappear.
I thought you would tell me who traded for not having adapted to the DAW workflow.
imho, is not daw quality parameter for decision.
All DAWs that are on the market are made by companies and serious business, so anyone is quality.
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Agreed, but if he likes the sound of the various synths and effekts, comps, etc. native in Logic, when it's the logical choice when we speak quality, I think my comps, etc. in ProTools are better than those
in Logic, but i think it's a matter of opinion and who you ask.
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yees
i said in the first phrase. Iagree if anyone prefer the instruments/fx in Daws.
I use quite rewire, sending a signal to another daw, step for processing and return.
in the end, it's all sound good >)
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