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Problem de-selecting parts of a clip in Live arrangement view.

Chemogen
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Posted : Jul 16, 2011 01:05:26
I don't know if I'm being an idiot, but I've never been able to get over this problem I have in Live when it comes to selecting multiple clips in live's arrangement view.

For instance, my live set is skeletal versions of my tracks pre-mixed so obviously Track A will run maybe 16 bars over on top of Track B.

So lets say I want to move Track B a bit forward so it starts a bit later but at the same time I want to keep all the other tracks in front of B together. So I highlight tracks B to I, but then I find that the selection I've highlighted also includes the last bit of Track A that runs over Track B,so obviously when I move that grouping of Track B to I over a few bars, it'll separate that last piece of Track A and move it along with the other group of clips.

So how can I stop this? I can't seem to de-select part of a clip. Even if I don't highlight all those tracks, but just Ctrl-Click each one individually, the selection markers will still cover any part of a clip that plays in the same time range as the ones I manually selected.

What am I doing wrong? Not sure if this is very clear, but I'm curious if anyone's experienced the same issues and found a way around it.
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Chemogen
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Posted : Jul 16, 2011 15:05
That's Shift-Click btw, not Ctrl-Click.

Here's an example:



I just want the the blue and grey clip selected so I can move them while keeping them synced, but a piece of the green clip that overlaps the blue one will get moved as well. How can I deselect the green clip while keeping the other two selected?
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Jul 18, 2011 02:35
This is a question I wanted to ask also, sometimes I put 8 clips on top of eachother in sequener view and the same problem happens to me when I want to move them.

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mudpeople
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Posted : Jul 18, 2011 07:22
What I do when this happens, is duplicate the track with, as you have it, the purple and green clips, and delete the green from one, and the purple from the other (and any other duplicates from whichever channel).

Then you can select the green clip's track without touching teh purple.

I find it easiest to arrange the tracks after doing that by staggering, sorta like this

GREENTRACK
_______BLUETRACK
_______________PURPLETRACK

That just makes lining up the waveforms easier without a channel in the way. (Just click on the channel data on teh right and drag-drop fyi )

If youre a clean freak like me you can also delete any duplicate envelopes and set the channel volume to -inf           .
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jul 18, 2011 23:29
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On 2011-07-16 15:05, Chemogen wrote:How can I deselect the green clip while keeping the other two selected?


You can't. Selections in Live's Arrange view always include ALL events/data between the start and end positions/tracks selected. Me no like.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Jul 18, 2011 23:32
That sucks balls!

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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jul 19, 2011 01:01
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On 2011-07-18 23:32, A.Rosengren wrote:
That sucks balls!


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Posted : Jul 19, 2011 05:26
if you dont want to select the envelopes (I dont know if thats the issue tho), theres an arrow below the dropdown automation selection on the right side, if you click it the envelope gets its own sub-channel that lets you drag the wavefrom without the envelopes, also theres a 'lock envelopes' option in teh context menu           .
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Posted : Jul 20, 2011 15:21
Just in case anyone's wondering why I'm premixing my sets, I use Live for making mixes for the video stuff I do, so it's quite frustrating having to make a mix 8 bars longer or shorter depending on changes made to the cut of the video.

Just thought I'd clear that up.

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