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Predator Demo Online

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Getafix

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Posted : Mar 8, 2007 02:48
Thought you guys might want to check it out:

http://www.robpapen.com/synths/predator/demo.php           http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
Djones
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Mar 8, 2007 09:34
Yeah, checked it out.
Nice synth with nice options and stuff.
Probably just all you need to make Psytrance, but it's not sounding better than other synths out there.
It does have some very cool things like, 16 X oversampling (supposed to be real good, although I still don't understand what it is exactly), preset morphing and lots of FX.
missing-link
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 8, 2007 14:08
it looks nice... i have had alittle play on the pc at work ... but i have shitty speakers so i dont know what it really sounds like ....

slyman604
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 10, 2007 06:49
Quote:

Probably just all you need to make Psytrance, but it's not sounding better than other synths out there.




you need to try it again and tweak some psy sounds on it, the sound quality of this utterly destroys any other softsynth.

i have been messing with all night.
pros:
-utterly amazing sound quality, first time i have heard a softsynth with the exact sound quality of a hardware synth.
-really fast envelopes, can get alot fast envelope analog filter type sounds that arent possible on most softsynths.
-great thick basses because of the quality of the oscilators and the fast filter env.
-same big set of waveforms as blue

cons:
-really only one filter, the second filter is useless.
-FM is rather weird on it. the semi tone module doesnt quite tweak things as expected for doing different pitched mod/carriers. you can get the standard psy fm/gurgly leads but you have to do it more with different waveforms than through tweaking the parameters.
-i really dont know what the point of having this, blue and albino is, half the parts seem recycled between synths. if they could combine the sound quality of this into blue or albino we would have the ultimate psy soft synth.
Meta
Meta/Boomslang

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Posted : Mar 10, 2007 10:16
Yeah, it is funny, it basically sounded like they lifted the EXACT top 10 presets & arp/sequence patterns from Vanguard, Albino and the Korg Legacy and put them in one new synth.

But yeah the sound quality is like playing those old presets with compression and and top notch 3rd party insert effects already on them. Sounds really good.

I look forward to the release of this synth, but... it is not going to help the "all new trance sounds the same" problem... at all. In fact it will make it much worse.



          http://soundcloud.com/aeon604
http://www.metaekstasis.com/
http://the1134.com/
Axonic


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Posted : Mar 10, 2007 21:01
Nice synth. Easy to understand, great sound but I'm @ Massive at the moment.


btw. I don't think that it'll make upcoming trance worse, what else should the presets sound like,Meta?
Meta
Meta/Boomslang

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Posted : Mar 10, 2007 22:10
It won't make TRANCE worse, but it will make the homogeneous effect worse. As Slyman said, half of the presets are pretty much recycled from other synths. Yes, people shouldn't rely on presets, but many do.

As I said, I still look forward to it.           http://soundcloud.com/aeon604
http://www.metaekstasis.com/
http://the1134.com/
Djones
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Mar 10, 2007 23:29
Quote:

On 2007-03-10 10:16, Meta wrote:
Yeah, it is funny, it basically sounded like they lifted the EXACT top 10 presets & arp/sequence patterns from Vanguard, Albino and the Korg Legacy and put them in one new synth.

But yeah the sound quality is like playing those old presets with compression and and top notch 3rd party insert effects already on them. Sounds really good.

I look forward to the release of this synth, but... it is not going to help the "all new trance sounds the same" problem... at all. In fact it will make it much worse.







Well, give this synth a try;
http://www.lennardigital.com/modules/sylenth1/
Meta
Meta/Boomslang

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Posted : Mar 11, 2007 01:47
Thanks for that, that one has some nice quality sounds too... and I'm curious to see if their Filter will fulfill their boasts... it's true what their blurb says, so many VSTs have cheap sounding filters.

          http://soundcloud.com/aeon604
http://www.metaekstasis.com/
http://the1134.com/
mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Mar 11, 2007 20:11
So, I've been playing with this thing today myself, and it does have some really nice sounds... I dunno about the second filter being useless though, I used to do similar things using albino where I'd chain the filters, so it depends on you... Yeah the presets do sound the same, but for me it's a bit easier than Blue, and it has a bit of a richer sound than the Albino at times.

The one thing that is bugging the crap out of me is the arpeggiator.... no way to tweak it... or at least not from what I can see... as for the preset thing... Lots of synths have similar sounding presets, and the only reason why we have many homogenous sounds are because people aren't investing any time into really learning a synth and how to design their own sounds.
Many times people just load up on every vst they can find and don't bother really learning how to use them. I'd rather see someone use only 2 synths but use them well, than someone using 30 vsts and only using the presets...           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
slyman604
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 11, 2007 22:46
Quote:

On 2007-03-11 20:11, mubali wrote:
I dunno about the second filter being useless though, I used to do similar things using albino where I'd chain the filters, so it depends on you...



oh i dont mean having a second filter is useless, i just mean i dont get why they made one really cool multimode filter and then this one little filter with little options.
i didnt even notice that about the arp, it doesnt look like there is anyway to edit it.

this whole synth kind of has the feel that pappen is trying not to compete with himself as far blue/albino. hopefully they at least put these filters into blue/albino.

here is a little bank of psy leads i made for blue if anyone wants them.

http://www.sidetrakkt.com/bluepsybank.fxb
EYB
Noized

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Posted : Mar 11, 2007 22:57
U can edit the arp. Therefore press on 'Arp' below the pitch bend options.

It is a nice synth and easy to edit with high quality, and it doesn't eat to much cpu.            Signature
mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Mar 12, 2007 11:38
Thanks!           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
artilect2050


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Posted : Mar 12, 2007 23:10
Rather use 2 synths instead of 30, but then you have to choose the 2 most versatile of your taste what is good for you.
And how do you do that?
Simple, especcially in the beginning you must try a lot of demoos and you come to the conclusion you can not really decide which one suite best for you, this synth is better for this, and that for that etc.
So at the end you are messed up with a lot of synths, that's how it works
orange
Fat Data

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Posts :  3918
Posted : Mar 12, 2007 23:23
i messed with it today and i can say that is a super easy synth to tweak and can produce really good sounds with minimum effort!

heres a patch i made in a veeeeery short time and its damn fat for a softsynth!

http://download.yousendit.com/21C476AA38F9CAAF


orange           http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic
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