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Powerfull Kick - (Genetic Spin)
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yumade40
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Posted : Apr 1, 2004 11:38
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Hey Guys......i cant seem to get a very powerefull kick whatever i do.....i have a very good one but not killer......example of genetic spin even xenomorph........
any help would be great...... |
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EYB
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Posted : Apr 1, 2004 13:21
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Necton kick rules for sure 
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Amygdala
Amygdala
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Posted : Apr 1, 2004 14:00
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Hullo
Just wondering - do you find the kick from www.amygdala.dk/music/Site-TGV.mp3 powerfull? Rumor has it that people do... If you like it, I will be happy to share secrets
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Input
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Posted : Apr 1, 2004 14:30
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Amygdala
Amygdala
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Posted : Apr 1, 2004 15:42
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Right
The kick was made on a Waldorf Microwave XT. The tone itself is from a resonant 24 dB filter bandPass filter with maximum resonance from filter self-oscilation.
The cutoff frequency is low (22 of 127). It is the frequency that the kick "ends" in - the one I think people wants to harmonize with basslines...?
An envelope controls cutoff with NO attack, semi-fast decay (value 19 of 127 possible) and no sustain or release. The amount of cutoff-freq modulation imposed by the filter-envelope is only 38 of 127 - this seems pretty crucial, as a sweep too big thwarts the "umph" of the kick (and one too small just creates "umph" and no click)
The volume envelope has an attack of 1 to get rid of a very high-frequency click - a somewhat slow decay of 42, to let the low humming tone die out slowly - zero for sustain and release.
There are no phunky stuff like modifiers, and creepy enveloping going on, no compression, no nuttin' (not even EQing!) - the only exception being that the keyboard controls cutoff-frequency as well, so that different ending frequecies can be used easily. The shape of the kick is essentially in the volume-envolpe, since the filter-envelope just generates a standard sweep.
I think any synth with a pretty decent 24 dB BP filter will be able to create a kick like this. Set up a good sweep ranging in the frequncies you want, and shape the click, "umph" and power (lower mid-freqs) with the volume envelope. I think the degress in frequency and volume is linear, but I'm not completely sure if the Microwave XT uses logarithmic or exponential envelopes...?
- Hope this helps a little. When creating a kick, make sure to use some synth or wave-editor, that let's you control parameters real-time, while the sound is playing. Otherwise, it's more luck than effort and listening...
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Input
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Posted : Apr 1, 2004 16:28
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Amygdala
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Posted : Apr 1, 2004 19:01
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- You're welcome... Please report results  |
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sidx
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Posted : Apr 1, 2004 22:00
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is it possible make power kicks wth nord lead 3? =) |
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ZilDoggo
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Posted : Apr 1, 2004 22:25
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u can do the trick that amigdala said but instead of using the filter use a sine oscilator., .,
works on every synth.,., (even without a self resonating filter)
but the quality varies from synth to synth.,
waldorf synths have a very nice filter
also the envelopes seem snappier ., propably log. as he sais.,
so dont expect the bottom end to be as nice as from a waldorf.,
also., if you are on pc you should tru Stomper.,
freeware proggie to make electronic drums.,
have fun.,
aka.,
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thockin
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Posted : Apr 1, 2004 22:37
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Sound Crystal
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Posted : Apr 1, 2004 23:41
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One of my favorite Kicks - Silicon Sound
Anyone have any clue as to how that one was created? |
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yumade40
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Posted : Apr 2, 2004 11:54
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Thanx a LOT guys.....amygdala very usefull tips......
any more comments on killer kicks.....????
peace,
mike |
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Amygdala
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Posted : Apr 2, 2004 18:30
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Well, the kick from TGV (the grand voyager) is somewhat THE amygdala sound... But since I took the idealogical vow never to be a sample hog, I'll put the kick on amygdala.dk - I can't do it before friday or saturday (next week) though, because I'm going to Paris tomorrow, and I'm to drunk to find it now
It'll be there
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Apr 2, 2004 20:24
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Nice tune Amygdala=)
i want the full length, i really like your style! =)
gonna go listen to the other tunes now...
have a happy time in Paris
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