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Kashyyyk
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 08:48
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HI there,
I played sat 1:00 am 
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Ellon
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 11:27
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Fria Tantrumm
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My only grouse with this movement is the pittance they offer the artists. Considering the amount of money raked in by this event, the outgoings are regulated in such a miserly manner that it has so far put me off. Now one could argue that the BOOM is not a music festival, music is just a part of the many activities and recreations offered....however, for the money one has to dole out during this festival, the same is not reciprocated by the organisors when it comes to paying musicians. Many artists accept this reduced fee just for the glory of playing at the BOOM, though I find that overrated and pitiful, a compromise, but each to his own I guess.
@ SPASM.....you are misinformed on the fees offered to artists for a live and/or DJ set...some were offered far less.
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Psybaba Records
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 13:35
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Though i respect everyone's right to an opinion, you are not being accurant:
The ticket cost 95euros which for what is offered is a bargain. My fellow trancers, hippies and general humans should get their asses out of the chair and buy in advance 
You have to explain what you understand for "quality acts"....i guess Ajja, Mubali, Cosmo, Kashyyyk, U-Recken, Rataliens, Menog, Behind Blue Eyes, Texas Faggot, Jahbo, Big Wigs, Tristan,Tetrameth, Atriohm, Laughing Buddha,N.A.S.A, Error Corrective,Shadow FX,Ocelot, etc...dont qualify in your quality/Known artists category (WTF is known artists???? Quality is the deal and quality there was...)
Please tell me what artists should have been present at Boom Festival?
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mate,if you will check the upper page,you will understand, that I am generally talking about possible entrance price for BOOM 2010,when I meant a prices over 200 Eu ( the BOOM to BOOM progression is around + 50 Eu every edit,so..)
Then,I didnt mention even once,that these bands have not or had not to play on BOOM mainstage,I am just touched the aspect of the BOOM line up,which is mainly consists ( exept few ) from undergeround,newborn or narrow-known acts ( ,as I see this is the main reason,why trance lovers adore BOOM so much -)
And,just for the matter of fact,I can say to you- Yes,my friend.Apart of very few (2-3)names in your list,the names you mentioned are exactly from UNDERGROUND trance movement.At least ,they are happily calling themselves like that.
Or you really think that Ajja,Antagon,Atriohm,Big Wigs,Cosmo,irgum Burgum,Kashyyyk,Neelix,Ocelot,Parus,Phonic Request,Procs,Random,Subconciousmind,The first stone,Zaraus are the representatives of mainstreem trance headliners?Some of these bands are absolutely hard to find on the world trance events map,or get info about them in internet,the others are known between narrow groups of the concreete style lovers.
And for sure some of them are in the very beginning level ( as I know by myself,and BOOM visitors told me as well)with the ideas in music and the production as well.
Dont get me wrong again,I do not try to crytisize any of the musicians,who are very respected by me for any sintesized sound they brought to our world.
The other thing is,knowing the $$$ politics of BOOM,I no need to name any of those,whom I would love to listen on BOOM-cause it will never happened anyway-they prefere cheaper projects,who happy to play for huge BOOM dancefloor for few coins,or even free.
It will be really great,if only the price will be not rediculously high for such kind of line up.
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Totally agree with you mate. Where is the underground when they charge these super commercial prices to hear artists who ll play for 300-500 euros or even for free? I can see only greed from the boom organisers...Thank god there are festivals like Ozora with amazing line up,60 euros entrance,clean toilets,fresh water and good vibes!Respect for the people!
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For sure Ozora is an amazing event, and I exactly know with how much spirit and belief it's being organized every time, but i think it's not really comperable with Boom. Ozora is a magical psychedelic trance festival, (Propably the best at the moment) and Boom is something else beside this. An international meeting point, a cultural educating hippie town actually.
But if we want to compare the two events in musical ways, than you can see the underground, not well known artists at Ozora too, and the popular sounds at Boom too. And believe me that neither Ozora pays the same fee for both kinds. I think neither Ozora or Boom present the less known artits because of less to pay, but because these festivals are responsible in a way for showing new talents, new sounds in this culture. And also they realized, that music is changing, new styles are borning, and as we are different, not everybody wants to listen to the same artits all the time. I don't really get it why should we accept only the 200 times heard acts and why should we ignore the fresh ones. The "big names" you want to see in the line-up were also beginers/pioneers once, and no matter how talented they are, if they'd had no chance to perform, (propably many times for free or small money) they couldn't became known. That's how it works, and I think it's ok like this.
Many times when a project name sounds new for you, actually the people behind are in this scene and trance music for a long long time. And the fact that they choosed not to go with the more popular sounds doesn't mean that they are beginers, or low quality.
Have a nice day to all.
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Jingabé
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 14:25
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For sure Ozora is an amazing event, and I exactly know with how much spirit and belief it's being organized every time, but i think it's not really comperable with Boom. Ozora is a magical psychedelic trance festival, (Propably the best at the moment) and Boom is something else beside this. An international meeting point, a cultural educating hippie town actually.
But if we want to compare the two events in musical ways, than you can see the underground, not well known artists at Ozora too, and the popular sounds at Boom too. And believe me that neither Ozora pays the same fee for both kinds. I think neither Ozora or Boom present the less known artits because of less to pay, but because these festivals are responsible in a way for showing new talents, new sounds in this culture. And also they realized, that music is changing, new styles are borning, and as we are different, not everybody wants to listen to the same artits all the time. I don't really get it why should we accept only the 200 times heard acts and why should we ignore the fresh ones. The "big names" you want to see in the line-up were also beginers/pioneers once, and no matter how talented they are, if they'd had no chance to perform, (propably many times for free or small money) they couldn't became known. That's how it works, and I think it's ok like this.
Many times when a project name sounds new for you, actually the people behind are in this scene and trance music for a long long time. And the fact that they choosed not to go with the more popular sounds doesn't mean that they are beginers, or low quality.
Have a nice day to all.
Viki
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Fortunately we still can read here some posts, in which people actually use their brain, instead of other scatological parts of the body, before their delight us with their thoughts.
Wise word Viki.
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Hellios
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 15:43
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On 2008-09-11 12:31, Hellios wrote:
commercial prices to hear artists who ll play for 300-500 euros or even for free? I can see only greed from the boom organisers...
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That's a lot of BS
Youre probably just jelouse, or you have some sort of problem with other peoples sucsess.
No one plays for free at the boom festival, Live acts are at least 1000 DJsets at least 500, opening performances in EVERY day, much more then that.
What about the rest? Maybe for you is not important, Convention area, outdoor performances, healing area, Sacred fire Stage with more then 20 full bands.
You talk like you dont know nothing about this festival, just ignorance and envy, it took years of experience and dedication to make it this big and for everyone, its a risk every year, and i dont see you taking that risk??
Do your own freaking festival, to see how it turns out, you have no idea, and if it turns as god as this i wont have any problem to pay the fee to get in, that's how it is .. everywhere.
i wish the best for Ozora that i went to the first one in 1999, but i'm not going to Ozora thread behaving like an imbecil and saying ...
"hourayy boom festival is the best one "
that's pathetic
at least 25.000 people this year, SOLD OUT; i'm sure it pisses many people off... pff
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The BS is you mate that you re trying to justify the greed of the so called undeground super market trance....say your BS to the thousands of people who were left outside...say these BS to the hundreds of people who got stomach infections because of the poor shitty toilets and the stinky water...As for the artists i know few who played for free just to get their chance to play in front of a massive dancefloor...its not only me, wise guy who say these things,check the previous posts and you ll realise that you re trying to justify one of the biggest trance rip offs...Now go back to your swimming pool with the rest of the Boom gang and enjoy your profits.... |
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divided
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 16:20
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In my oppinion the ticket for Boom festival is not expensive at all. When I think about the 2006 edition i believe that the money was used in the best possible way.
I must admit that I expected the same this year, but as I see it, they had some organisation problems. Which I can't really understand.
Not that Boom was not OK (I can hardly imagine a better festival) but in my oppinion this lack of organisation could be perceived by many of us.
A friend of mine who was working at Boom, told me that the friday prior the beggining of the festival there were lots of things unfinished (the dancefloor, for example). And also that some deco artists had problems when arriving to the festival (he said that someone from austria was not allowed in and could not set his deco up).
As for the music, Boom is not only for music, and I believe that with the right spirit you can always find some acts that amaze you.
So in a word, yes, i believe that the money could have been better used. But they also had lots of extra expenses (more artists and soundsystems to have groovy beach running all festival long), so I believe that they did the best they could.
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babag
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 16:23
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a lot of fighting, many nomeaning no nothing posts - not all, but many - anyway quite a lot of bitching around with no outcome at all.
anyway - thank you sam from chaishop for this article, maybe it may clear some of the thoughts in this forum. i found it quiet interesting and most of all true and in the present moment and now - and not in what could be and what was...
here the link:
http://www.chaishop.com/article/12360
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dj X.P.
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 16:45
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It will be really great,if only the price will be not rediculously high for such kind of line up.
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mate,
though its silly to talk in such ways...people/projects like Ocelot, Ajja or Subconsciousminds carry the spirit of this scene...which im sure "your know artists" also do(not)...please!!!!!! Im not counting who played for more people in a godamn year but who did it with quality, identity and innovation...by the way you skipped 2/3 of the artists i refered... the pre-sale ticket in 2006 was arouynd 75euros (maybe im wrong!!!) so your economical preview is wrong. Whos is in the beginning level???? Tristan or Rastaliens? Maybe Ajja and Laughing Buddha...no wait its Ocelot who is in the beginning level sorry for sarcasm....moreover is that so important!!! when i listen to a guy who's playibg only for 5 years and already is doing something more innovative, creative, deep...meaningful.... from a guy who's a "big Kahuna" in the scene, "he's been there since the beginning" and still his sound sucks. "well but the production level is very high"...BullS.(sorry) high production level on crappy music is like buying a boat when you live in the midle of the desert!!! You should criticize the guy who's not doing anything meaningful for several of years but still ask for f****** big fee to play!!!! man where's the psychadelia in thsis??!!??? 
Im sorry to say but with the exception of an amazing party in Goa, you usually play and stand behind the sort of events i cannot relate to psy-culture....
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Dude,I m sorry,I dont know from which place on earth you are,but seems,you do not really read or understand well english...probably you just dont want.
I m talking about the price on the entrance ( 110 - BOOM 2006 /160 - BOOM 2008 /....- BOOM 2010....count it ..) and you are pointing me the price on internet presales.
I m talking ( in a positive way ) that many of the artists are representing trance-underground scene - you re arguing about Big names and fees
From all the line up I didnt mention Tristan or Rastaliens- u r popinting on their names......
AND!!The main thing - I am not telling all this to say that BOOM have to get commercial names or TOP 10 artists alltimes,but!!I think that the [prices must follow the ideas.
And about your sarcatsic spike...my friend-I also ABSOLUTELY do not try to make myself the ideologist of psychedelic movement ( specially,cause novadays this idea is ruined completely by people of your type- enthusiastic sarcastic dark lovers and tranceextremistic teens),I just think that the level of prices generally on BOOM is faraway high of hippie-trancefreaks-psytribes gatherings,and no word about infrastructures or line up of BOOM is good or not.
I think,mate,this is a BOOM festival review page,if you want to show yourself more,at least,read my posts better,and it will be more clever to continue in PM,we all ve got your indea about the things. |
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Ellon
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 16:54
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On 2008-09-11 12:31, Hellios wrote:
commercial prices to hear artists who ll play for 300-500 euros or even for free? I can see only greed from the boom organisers...
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That's a lot of BS
Youre probably just jelouse, or you have some sort of problem with other peoples sucsess.
No one plays for free at the boom festival, Live acts are at least 1000 DJsets at least 500, opening performances in EVERY day, much more then that.
What about the rest? Maybe for you is not important, Convention area, outdoor performances, healing area, Sacred fire Stage with more then 20 full bands.
You talk like you dont know nothing about this festival, just ignorance and envy, it took years of experience and dedication to make it this big and for everyone, its a risk every year, and i dont see you taking that risk??
Do your own freaking festival, to see how it turns out, you have no idea, and if it turns as god as this i wont have any problem to pay the fee to get in, that's how it is .. everywhere.
i wish the best for Ozora that i went to the first one in 1999, but i'm not going to Ozora thread behaving like an imbecil and saying ...
"hourayy boom festival is the best one "
that's pathetic
at least 25.000 people this year, SOLD OUT; i'm sure it pisses many people off... pff
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The BS is you mate that you re trying to justify the greed of the so called undeground super market trance....say your BS to the thousands of people who were left outside...say these BS to the hundreds of people who got stomach infections because of the poor shitty toilets and the stinky water...As for the artists i know few who played for free just to get their chance to play in front of a massive dancefloor...its not only me, wise guy who say these things,check the previous posts and you ll realise that you re trying to justify one of the biggest trance rip offs...Now go back to your swimming pool with the rest of the Boom gang and enjoy your profits....
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Man, you really are full of hate to the point that you miscreate arguments to support your anger
It sucked that the people were left outside, though i know so many people who entered after the closing of the doors...if you would
had been there you would notice the authorities present in the door and ordering the closing and maintaining it. I and thousands swam and drank the water for 7 days and nothing happened...if you take some time to investigate you will see that the reasons for the people getting infected are connected to causes beyond anyone's responsability...unless we are refering to the thousnds of people of decided to swim in very much visible "no swimming areas"...
If your going to criticize put your stuff together 'cause youre sounding inconsistent...and yes there are many negative things to point out but none of the ones you mentioned...
While at Boom,
learn to accept what is being proposed...it has to do with self-responsability in your acts...you will see that it will improve lot your conditions and surroundings
Peace!
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dj X.P.
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 16:56
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On 2008-09-12 13:35, Psybaba Records wrote:
The "big names" you want to see in the line-up were also beginers/pioneers once, and no matter how talented they are, if they'd had no chance to perform, (propably many times for free or small money) they couldn't became known. That's how it works, and I think it's ok like this.
Many times when a project name sounds new for you, actually the people behind are in this scene and trance music for a long long time. And the fact that they choosed not to go with the more popular sounds doesn't mean that they are beginers, or low quality.
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I am repeating again.Knowing BOOM politics,I am sure that the projects I would love to hear on BOOM,have almost no chances to play there,but ,again,I dont want BIG NAMES or Star alliance - I want reasonable prices on trance festivals -on the entrance,food ,services ,at least ,according to the idea of the festival,which is posing as the biggest World's underground event.
Or,to change the Mask on The Biggest World Commercial event with the most underground music, or at least to invest more money at least in deco and reducing the fees to the artists.
I m clearly understand,that the investements are really big for such kind of event,but 30 000 ppl,paying +- 120 Eu enter,and share for 7 days from restaurants,that are also really costly ( 9 euro for burrito,how about this?!)- these facts could make the organisation to put some extras in the fest,than in the pockets
////And,mr Psybaba,I am deeply inside the scene from 1992,still interesting in the happennings,so beleive me ,maybe for many ppl the new project on the scene is what you ve said upper,but I am one of these Guys,who knows the scene better,than many,and when I am meaning NEW project,I dont mean anything bad ,just that the name is NEW ( and I m really happy that the new names appeares,but they are NEW anyway) |
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Ellon
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 17:23
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On 2008-09-10 23:56, Ellon wrote:
It will be really great,if only the price will be not rediculously high for such kind of line up.
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mate,
though its silly to talk in such ways...people/projects like Ocelot, Ajja or Subconsciousminds carry the spirit of this scene...which im sure "your know artists" also do(not)...please!!!!!! Im not counting who played for more people in a godamn year but who did it with quality, identity and innovation...by the way you skipped 2/3 of the artists i refered... the pre-sale ticket in 2006 was arouynd 75euros (maybe im wrong!!!) so your economical preview is wrong. Whos is in the beginning level???? Tristan or Rastaliens? Maybe Ajja and Laughing Buddha...no wait its Ocelot who is in the beginning level sorry for sarcasm....moreover is that so important!!! when i listen to a guy who's playibg only for 5 years and already is doing something more innovative, creative, deep...meaningful.... from a guy who's a "big Kahuna" in the scene, "he's been there since the beginning" and still his sound sucks. "well but the production level is very high"...BullS.(sorry) high production level on crappy music is like buying a boat when you live in the midle of the desert!!! You should criticize the guy who's not doing anything meaningful for several of years but still ask for f****** big fee to play!!!! man where's the psychadelia in thsis??!!???
Im sorry to say but with the exception of an amazing party in Goa, you usually play and stand behind the sort of events i cannot relate to psy-culture....
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Dude,I m sorry,I dont know from which place on earth you are,but seems,you do not really read or understand well english...probably you just dont want.
I m talking about the price on the entrance ( 110 - BOOM 2006 /160 - BOOM 2008 /....- BOOM 2010....count it ..) and you are pointing me the price on internet presales.
I m talking ( in a positive way ) that many of the artists are representing trance-underground scene - you re arguing about Big names and fees
From all the line up I didnt mention Tristan or Rastaliens- u r popinting on their names......
AND!!The main thing - I am not telling all this to say that BOOM have to get commercial names or TOP 10 artists alltimes,but!!I think that the [prices must follow the ideas.
And about your sarcatsic spike...my friend-I also ABSOLUTELY do not try to make myself the ideologist of psychedelic movement ( specially,cause novadays this idea is ruined completely by people of your type- enthusiastic sarcastic dark lovers and tranceextremistic teens),I just think that the level of prices generally on BOOM is faraway high of hippie-trancefreaks-psytribes gatherings,and no word about infrastructures or line up of BOOM is good or not.
I think,mate,this is a BOOM festival review page,if you want to show yourself more,at least,read my posts better,and it will be more clever to continue in PM,we all ve got your indea about the things.
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Actually it is you who's missing a point here...the price was 95euos for everyone who gave a rat's ass and bought it in advance!!!! Or pre-sale ticket is not a valid sort of ticket!!!!!???????
Regarding the rest of your comments i will ignore them as they relate to massive a show off of ignorance as you you make assumptions on someone you really dont know who it is!!!!!
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dj X.P.
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 17:27
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Regarding the rest of your comments i will ignore them as they relate to massive a show off of ignorance as you you make assumptions on someone you really dont know who it is!!!!!
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Thanx god.Full stop.Peace |
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dj X.P.
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 17:34
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Apart of this,I always admit BOOM organisation as the most Hi level professional team on trance scene,and every BOOM is defenetly the most remarkable and unique event in Solar Universe.
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Anyway,not to get me wrong about BOOM festival as a Happenning by itself and Trance Tribe gathering,I am repeating my older post to all BOOMers with my love |
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Jingabé
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Posted : Sep 12, 2008 17:45
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a lot of fighting, many nomeaning no nothing posts - not all, but many - anyway quite a lot of bitching around with no outcome at all.
anyway - thank you sam from chaishop for this article, maybe it may clear some of the thoughts in this forum. i found it quiet interesting and most of all true and in the present moment and now - and not in what could be and what was...
here the link:
http://www.chaishop.com/article/12360
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Thanks Babag for the link.
A really interesting article, which, of course, only reflects the opinion of its author. Shared by me...
The article is curiosly titled "The mature side of Psytrance culture", which I think is in almost total dissonance with the direction of this thread. Many childish posts, and opinions not matured enough. Or maybe it's just me who's getting old.
Anyway, have one on Boom
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