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clown
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 02:22
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69 Bit
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 03:39
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if you not buy this cd's how you know they are trash ?
if you know what is good for you , you buy it ?
and if you dont know what to buy, what you will do ?
listen to sampels or mp3 ? burn cd from a friend ?
ask the dj what he play ?
just for curiosity 
and p mac i have only one release from your colection and i think its not so bad infact i remmber i was enjoy hearing it in the time i buy it , so nothing wrong IMO
if i have the monye maybe i was buy another compilation , the things is no one can buy all the new release becose they are too many of them out ther ..
sad but true 
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Nik©
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 11:32
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my opinion , ppl like code red kill the scene with their ignorance and general stupidity ... How dare u teach labels what to do > ? u have no clue , what those labels that u mentioned are all about... or u think u know all about psychedelia and sound ?
Did someone put a gun to ur head and made u buy cd's that u didn’t like? Or u just bought in the store some random compilations, and now have complains that it’s not something u like???
Leave your personal issues and problems out of this...
Labels done nothing bad for u, or anyone to deserve this kind of treatment from u
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Insane Behavior
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 12:57
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On 2005-06-14 16:48, Code Red wrote:
This is not good for the music, rather embarasing i can say.
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Lol i thought the music was the artists, not yours, who are u to say what is imbaresing, if u dont like of find it imbaresing then u shouldent listen..right.. and for the first time ever on my time here on isratrance i would agree with surrender..u should have ALL your facts in order before u zip down your pants and piss on people..
Cheers Freaks
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slug
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 13:03
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How can you choose a good cd out of 100 bad ones? How can you track down good releases from good labels when every day the internet shops are flooded with new releases from unknown labels and unknown artists? You just cant and this just turns me crazy.
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Code Red, I just can't agree that one cannot choose decent compilations and decent tracks on Internet shops. It IS possible to listen first and find out if the CD is going to be good or crap.
I would agree that there is a big influx of labels and compilations, many of not-so-great standard. And this can make it difficult to compete for all involved, but at the end of the day, the market will decide who stays and who goes. Same in any industry.
There's just no point to ask people to stop running their businesses (unless there is some kind of fraud or deception involved). |
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Evil Doctor Inc
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 13:09
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On 2005-06-14 21:25, kiko wrote:
day after day more lables without good procediments, are opening in this scene (they are opening but they will close more quikly then they expect), and thats why the biggers are becoming even more biggers.
Because they are the only ones who have quality in their products (and then ppl call them commercialls).
But the ppl that really want to listen GOOD SOUND are going to buy at the Biggers Lables that have Good Sound, instead of crap amateur sound. ""
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The trouble with all this pissing is. Its raining Red. however the Red bull has a code of his own.
Honor and choice is not his of the taking
however your intelligence on the scene and all its labels is commendible. 2shay for knowing so much
the trouble wit the brain however is it lets go of relevant information, to let the other crap in.
My friend code red. Maybe its time to exercise your choice when you choose to buy. if you like commercial go commercial.
be commercial
be sane.
I shall say a quite prayer for your brain
Amen
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gaspard
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 13:22
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On 2005-06-15 11:32, Nik© wrote:
my opinion , ppl like code red kill the scene with their ignorance and general stupidity ...
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got to agree with you on this one mate.
i d love to hear what code red s contribution to OUR scene is! other than bitching about it that is!
 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 13:32
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clown about the boshke beat exmple i think you cant really compre becuse of the style of the music
techtrance is not an easy listening music that you like on the second you hear it
it takes time to open up to it so i think you will never see alot of labels of tech trance in the other hand fullon music is very easy listening so it sell, so there is alot of labes and crappy releses |
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Lithium
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 14:11
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On 2005-06-14 23:14, Code Red wrote:
The problem is that every day there is a new label in the promotional part of this forum with a crappy compilation of nine artists that probably beg this crappy label to release their music so that they can get famous in the future. All this situation kills the serious labels and artists that get lost in the crowdy crappy scene that is being created for some time now. How can you choose a good cd out of 100 bad ones? How can you track down good releases from good labels when every day the internet shops are flooded with new releases from unknown labels and unknown artists? You just cant and this just turns me crazy.
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wrong you are sooo wrong my friend. it´s because we have smaller labels that can´t afford to pay big stars that many good established artists we have today once came to the scene. if we only had spun, tip, phonokol, homega, chemical crew and so on we would all be listening to the same crap from the same guys all the time, artists that from the feedback i see here in the forum 80% of the people are already fed up with their kind of sound..
besides this scene has became so big that we can consider this a matter of taste, and like in all other kinds of music industry, there are the actually good artist that survive and the ones who are left behind during all this process.
having problem to choose 1 cd from 100 maybe thats cause you haven´t decided yet whats your kind of sound. if you just turn the cd around and check the tracklist i can´t see any problem in choosing a good cd from 100.. |
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EYB
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 14:16
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Yep. We need more artists and more labels for a better competition 
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Bunker Jack
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 17:45
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yeah we need more artists and more labels for a better competition, i just hope it can be a quality competition.
Because now iam buying cds only in 2 labels, i hope that one day i can get more Good Quality Sound in much more labels...
Boombolélélélé
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Lithium
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 18:08
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On 2005-06-15 17:45, kiko wrote:
Because now iam buying cds only in 2 labels, i hope that one day i can get more Good Quality Sound in much more labels...
Boombolélélélé
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again my friend kiko i believe thats a matter of taste and not a matter of quality. i don´t really now which labels you buy cds from but i´m sure if all of the people who have gaven their opinion in this thread had mentioned which were their favorite 2 labels, most probably all of them would be different, which makes me belive and because the scene has became so big that this is just a matter of taste, and not a matter of quality, although i´m not saying there are not labels with more "quality" than others, in what concerns to their releases.  |
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Code Red
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 18:37
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On 2005-06-14 23:25, 5Meo-Geo wrote:
Code Red just stop buying these cd's
stop fund the fuckers and they'll die with time
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I dont buy them but they keep releasing those bad cd's every week. I just connect to psyshop everyday and the place is full of new artists from israel and russia and portugal. I have a feeling that more people make music in these countries than the people they go to parties or buy cd's. How can USTA last compilation and Psydrop new album be the cd's of the week in Psyshop?
Competition is good when the people try to become the best because they love what they do not because they want to turn into pop stars.
So either you start working more profesionaly with your labels or dont work at all. Having a label just to claim that you have one and pretend to be a dj does not help anyone. |
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Surrender
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 18:50
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code red, you must understand the business side of things..... cd of the week is not neccesarily - the best cd this week.
psyshop promotes whoever they have deals with.
things are not always as they are presented to the public.
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Bunker Jack
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 19:34
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On 2005-06-15 17:45, kiko wrote:
Because now iam buying cds only in 2 labels, i hope that one day i can get more Good Quality Sound in much more labels...
Boombolélélélé
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again my friend kiko i believe thats a matter of taste and not a matter of quality. i don´t really now which labels you buy cds from but i´m sure if all of the people who have gaven their opinion in this thread had mentioned which were their favorite 2 labels, most probably all of them would be different, which makes me belive and because the scene has became so big that this is just a matter of taste, and not a matter of quality, although i´m not saying there are not labels with more "quality" than others, in what concerns to their releases.
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Lithium sorry...but iam really talking about quality sound, and not about the quality of artists compositions, sequences, tastes, whatever...
The labels where i buy cds, release a bit of all trance tastes (Psy,FULL On,Prog, Chill...)...
What iam really talking about, is hearing an album that you really like the musics inside, but you hate how the cd sounds in general (i have listened albuns with some great musics inside, but with lot of errors in the whole cd, and is here when you know that is a mastering problem, some of them with distortions in the whole cd, maybe because of the super bad compressions in the mastering process, and many more errors, some of them about mixes too iam sure of that...etc...)
For me a lable that try to work well, is the lable that is putting in constant contact the artists and the mastering engineer (dont need to be a engineer, but a mastering expert), and then the mastering engineer can talk with the artist, to can ask for some things that will better the release like: better artist mix, or some small better arrangements in the artist mix...like this..."hey please add 2 db in that melody sinth that start at 3 min of the music, that will help me to do a better mastering work, ok?...no problem mr. mastering engineer, i will do this"...and the artist do it without any problem, and even more changes if the mastering man ask him)...
And i think this method would help a bit the work of the team...because the cd release is a work of the team (group), and the team in one compilation (V/A) for example is very big, starting counting all the artists involved, dj-organizer, mastering man..etc..etc...
so hope you now understand a bit more my opinion...because iam not that kind of person that say "i dont like this full on lable cause iam dark lover" or other things like this...iam that kind of person that like good music and good sound, and for me good music without good sound (with crap sound) is bad product...
ps. sorry the very bad english vocabulary
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